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International observers to investigate Swedish election fraud

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lensecat · 1790293415 · focus · HN ↗
It's crazy that the guy only got 648 personal votes and still got into parliament. In a country with eight million eligible voters and 349 MPs.
1. TazeTSchnitzel · 1790294729 · focus · HN ↗
  Sweden uses a party list proportional representation system. Seats are allocated based on how many votes a party gets, and they are allocated to parties first. The selection of who then sits in those seats then comes down to ”personröster” (literally “person-votes”, but I think they're conventionally translated as “preferential votes” or something like that), which are optional. Most voters do not put a cross next to their preferred candidate, they just put the party ballot paper in the envelope and the envelope goes in the box. And because they're optional, there's therefore a threshold for how many personröster a candidate has to receive to be elected. That threshold is 5% of voters in the particular electoral district. Only candidates that get more than 5% of votes are even considered in this process; if there's none (or not enough), then the candidates from the party list are taken.
  The seat would have gone to the Left Party either way. But only this guy specifically got enough personal support to get elected. There's nothing that crazy about it. Participative democracy rewards those who choose to participate. In this case, it's a two-tier participation system. People who vote for a party, but not for a specific candidate, are letting the people who do vote for a specific candidate choose for them. And that's fine.
  1. try-working · 1790294897 · focus · HN ↗
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    TazeTSchnitzel · 1790295486 · focus · HN ↗
    Whoa there, hold your horses:
    - There's an ongoing investigation into alleged election fraud, which has not yet proven anything
    - The candidate himself is not even a suspect in that investigation
    - The candidate is known to have had some contacts with Somali government officials in the past, but no relation to this election is alleged by said investigation
    - So far, it doesn't sound like they even have actual evidence any fraud took place (<a href="https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/senaste-nytt-om-val-2026?inlagg=a1e929855e2b0907d540effc23ff52b1" rel="nofollow">https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/senaste-nytt-om-val-2026?...)
    I believe in innocent until proven guilty. Remember that political opponents might have an incentive to fabricate allegations.
    dcrazy · 1790295797 · focus · HN ↗
    Given the user you are responding to is named “try-working” and is participating heavily in this post, arguing heavily on the side of “where there’s smoke there’s fire,” I think they might in fact be one such political opponent. Or at least politically opposed to the existence of Somali migrants in Sweden.
    verdverm · 1790297976 · focus · HN ↗
    I think their handle is more likely tied to their projects site: <a href="https://try.works/" rel="nofollow">https://try.works/
    I often find myself wonder if the world would be a saner place had Trump actually won in 2020
    johnea · 1790300517 · focus · HN ↗
    > I often find myself wonder if the world would be a saner place had Trump actually won in 2020
    I've had this same thought.
    The four year gap just allowed a lot of malicious planning to occur. Especially the Project 2025 whitepaper.
    And on the subject of election fraud: I think sending a ramble horde to kick in the doors of the capitol building, _while_ the election results were being tallied, and calling the vice-president to order an alternate set of "electors", and calling on the state of Georgia to "find" additional votes, is clearly election fraud.
    Because of all this, when the current administration claims there is election fraud in the US, he knows this to be true, because he committed it...

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