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1. eviks · 1790503509 · focus · HN ↗

   > more importantly I do think that students need to learn responsible use of these technologies anyway.

   But you're not doing that, you've just given up and allowed any use!

   > How to use AI coding agents effectively is not a learning goal

   Exactly

   > violate evidence-based best pedagogy practices, and I made them anyway.

   Of course you have, when have educators cared much about best practices

   > We have since built infrastructure to autograde code and written reports of homework with LLMs (institutionally approved LLMs)

   Further reducing the point of your own existence

   > Debriefing after such a failure is a good learning opportunity to talk about automation bias and different forms of human oversight (and how this is really hard in practice).

   It would be if there were any learning, but since the incentives are for more AI use and less learning, there will be no application of the supposed learning, so you'll continue to have those 80% fails

   1. bartvk · 1790509292 · focus · HN ↗

      > Of course you have, when have educators cared much about best practices

      Why do you say so?

      This is not at all my experience, as a recent teacher it strikes me how much the teaching methods are supported by science.

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