Thread

1. Aeolun · 1790414608 · focus · HN ↗

   I dunno, if I had to teach students now I think I’d just force them to stay in the lecture hall without internet for the hour I need them to work on their assignments that week. I just can’t see any other reasonable way to do this. Everyone leaves their phones at the door in some designated locker or something.

   1. Peacefulz · 1790441053 · focus · HN ↗

      > "Everyone leaves their phones at the door"...

      — watches, calculators, discrete technological devices. I've seen kids encode text as patterns of dashes on their desks, sharing the cipher solution with their desk mates in other periods.

      The problem isn't skirting the effort. The problem is systemic. Why does the system reward taking shortcuts? I think it's because most areas are focused on short horizon tasks, min-maxing effort:output. It's not a problem with those technical fields. It's a problem with the current crop of the C-Suite across the entire occupational plane. They're short sighted.

   2. procaryote · 1790510275 · focus · HN ↗

      Why enforce effort rather than outcome? Just have exams be without phones.

      If someone manages to learn without doing the homework, or finds some way to learn better using an LLM, fine. The exam will show that.

      1. xpct · 1790522149 · focus · HN ↗

         Because we're afraid students might lack self control, or be unable to evaluate how well they absorbed the material.

Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.