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California is chasing wealth that has feet

293 points · 870 comments · idbnstra

  1. binlog · · focus · HN ↗
    Wealth taxes are a symptom of a broken tax system. If you let someone get to hundreds of billions in net worth and then realize they haven’t been appropriately paying back into the system, it’s already too late. Like the article says they can simply say “no” in a variety of ways, from fighting in court to simply leaving.
    1. philipallstar · · focus · HN ↗
      > If you let someone get to hundreds of billions in net worth and then realize they haven’t been appropriately paying back into the system

      This is to once again mistake net worth for money. Net worth is not real. It is not a good measure of the money someone may be able to realise. They do not have hundreds of billions. There is nothing to tax until they sell some shares.

      1. ajross · · focus · HN ↗
        > There is nothing to tax until they sell some shares.

        That's tautological. I mean, it's true under current federal tax law. It's obviously not true under new California law, which is what the article is about.

        Clearly the government can tax non-cash assets, and they do all the time. People act like "wealth taxes" are some moral horror or logical impossibility, while tossing their mortgage statement into a big file and pretending to ignore the property tax line on the escrow account.

        Are there practical problems like "wealth has feet"? Sure. Taxation is hard and all systems can be gamed. But let's not pretend that there's a greater principle at work here.

        1. hunterpayne · · focus · HN ↗
          Just wait until you find out what $20b in necessarily liquidations does to Meta's stock price and your S&P500 ETF.
          1. ajross · · focus · HN ↗
            Did you have to liquidate your house to pay the property tax on it?
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