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California is chasing wealth that has feet

293 points · 870 comments · idbnstra

  1. binlog · · focus · HN ↗
    Wealth taxes are a symptom of a broken tax system. If you let someone get to hundreds of billions in net worth and then realize they haven’t been appropriately paying back into the system, it’s already too late. Like the article says they can simply say “no” in a variety of ways, from fighting in court to simply leaving.
    1. philipallstar · · focus · HN ↗
      > If you let someone get to hundreds of billions in net worth and then realize they haven’t been appropriately paying back into the system

      This is to once again mistake net worth for money. Net worth is not real. It is not a good measure of the money someone may be able to realise. They do not have hundreds of billions. There is nothing to tax until they sell some shares.

      1. slg · · focus · HN ↗
        It's strange that people always make this argument for wealth taxes, but you rarely hear it about property taxes. If "net worth is not real" neither is equity in real estate.
        1. ndriscoll · · focus · HN ↗
          People absolutely make that argument about property taxes. That's where deferrals or abatements for e.g. elderly or low-income homeowners, or caps on property tax increases come from. Someone may own a home that property taxes price them out of, forcing them to leave their community because they can't actually conjure money from a higher priced home.

          I think a lot of tax authorities also don't really aggressively reassess that regularly without a sale, so it also kind of ends up baked in that if you didn't pay that much for the property, it's only theoretically worth that much.

          1. lelandfe · · focus · HN ↗
            Predatory property taxes were a part of how so many black American farmers lost their land: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;exkhR" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;exkhR
            1. cucumber3732842 · · focus · HN ↗
              Their fault for not developing it to it&#x27;s highest and best use so they could afford to pay the taxes &#x2F;s
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