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1. boredatoms · 1790270522 · focus · HN ↗

   The US needs to get over this whole ‘punishment’ view of prison. It either a social-safety quarantine, or a rehabilitation

   1. mrits · 1790270740 · focus · HN ↗

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      1. Glemmlko · 1790271477 · focus · HN ↗

         No it shouldn't.

         It should be the understanding of a society that no human being is just 'bad'. A human being became 'bad' by a definiton of a society due to circumstances like upbringing, environment etc. and a society which failed you.

         Prison is the removal of you from society due to impatibility of current values and should help you become 'better'.

         Be happy that you had good/avg parents, the mental strength to help yourself, money, luck, body strength, whatever it was which allowed you to comment on HN instead of being in a prison.

         1. WalterBright · 1790271856 · focus · HN ↗

            > due to circumstances like upbringing, environment etc. and a society which failed you.

            It's always someone else's fault.

            1. Glemmlko · 1790272155 · focus · HN ↗

               Its a brain, a brain which gets teached how to act and behave.

               Some learn how to think critical, some don't. Some are intelligent, some are empathic, some don't understand the world very well.

               Don't simplify this by a snarky and ignorant comment.

               I'm not even against moving people out of our society, its fucked up enough that this is necessayr, but i'm against cruelty and i'm for helping.

               1. WalterBright · 1790274191 · focus · HN ↗

                  > Don't simplify this by a snarky and ignorant comment.

                  It is simple. People have free will. Bad people know what right and wrong is, and they chose wrong.

                  1. zippyman55 · 1790282813 · focus · HN ↗

                     Wow! what a dodge! Try reading: The Sun Does Shine: How I Found Life and Freedom on Death Row

                     1. WalterBright · 1790287567 · focus · HN ↗

                        That case is irrelevant to the point. I never said law and justice were perfect. Nothing human is perfect.

                        1. zippyman55 · 1790288684 · focus · HN ↗

                           Not sure I am following your point. You commented that people have choices, good and bad. I presented you with a story where a good boy was watering his mother's yard and he was thrown in prison (28 yrs) for a murder he did not commit. I guess the only choice to be made was the corrupt police employees? I think you and I will go around and around in circles on this. I wish you well.

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