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1. agos · 1790263045 · focus · HN ↗

   the entire concept of "voter registration" (and associated shenanigans) is so alien to my European brain that I fail to see any reason why the richest country in the world does things this way other than voter suppression. What am I missing?

   1. toast0 · 1790265025 · focus · HN ↗

      Pretty sure countries in Europe have voter registration too? Here's a page to register in France. [1]

      The US was organized around a very limited federal government (this has changed over time). Each state is responsible for elections within the state. There's no exact national registry of citizens, although Social Security keeps a de facto registry as most citizens are enumerated by that administration and their records include citizenship indication. Strictly speaking, registration with social security is not mandatory, it is required for employees and a child must be registered to qualify for tax credits and it makes administrative tasks simpler.

      Within each state, voting is typically administered by county (or similar level) offices; although I think many states have a state wide process to register.

      A given voter will vote for many positions (and often some propositions), and electoral boundaries for positions don't necessarily align with anything else or each other. So there's a lot of complexity there.

      The residence address of the voter is the important thing that decides which elections they can participate in, but since there is no real registry of residence (de facto or de jure), it needs to be collected seperately.

      [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.service-public.gouv.fr&#x2F;particuliers&#x2F;vosdroits&#x2F;R16396?lang=en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.service-public.gouv.fr&#x2F;particuliers&#x2F;vosdroits&#x2F;R1...

      1. spiralpolitik · 1790267697 · focus · HN ↗

         Since the motor voter bills in the 90s. Most US states handle voter registration via the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). When you apply for your license or renew you tick the box and it automatically registers you.

         The drivers license database is the defaco registry of where you live and most states require you to update your address within 2 weeks of moving (although enforcement is loose). There is a state identification card for those who don&#x27;t drive that fulfills the same purpose as a drivers license.

         Since RealID states now have to check immigration status if you request a RealID license (some states will issue non-RealID drivers licenses to the undocumented). There is a further Enhanced ID check that some states do that will indicate that you are a US citizen on the license. RealID and non RealID licenses are clearly marked.

         Basically true voter fraud is largely a non issue because the States generally have their systems together. Voter suppression, which is the goal of most of the voting related legislation of the last 20 years, is however rampant.

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