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Google’s Project Suncatcher to put ML infrastructure in space

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  1. kin · · focus · HN ↗
    For those questioning viability, there&#x27;s a startup called Starcloud <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.starcloud.com&#x2F;">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.starcloud.com&#x2F; with a public whitepaper explaining a bit their hardware and economics <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.starcloud.com&#x2F;wp">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.starcloud.com&#x2F;wp. They&#x27;ve already had one small proof of concept launched. Not trying to promote, I just heard about them on the ycomb podcast
    1. a11r · · focus · HN ↗
      That whitepaper puts the cost of a 40 MW cluster at $167m on land and $8.2m in space, inclusive of launch costs.
      1. j2kun · · focus · HN ↗
        that sounds ridiculous. How could it be so much cheaper
        1. jasonwatkinspdx · · focus · HN ↗
          They&#x27;re assuming $30&#x2F;kg launch costs.
          1. singron · · focus · HN ↗
            Falcon heavy has never flown SSO, but it&#x27;s probably over $1500&#x2F;kg, which is &gt;50x more expensive. Even the most optimistic estimates for a future starship launch cost is at least $100&#x2F;kg, so it makes no sense to use $30&#x2F;kg.

            The other line items are probably similarly unrealistic since they include their own launch costs as well.

            They also spec 300 racks of 500kg each, which is &lt;40% of the weight of the comparable land rack. I doubt the full weight reduction since the racks still need to survive launch force&#x2F;vibration in addition to fluid&#x2F;pressure enclosures that land racks don&#x27;t require. I think it&#x27;s likely that just about every part of this report has a similarly cooked numbers, and we can just throw the whole thing out.

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