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Oracle cites 'force majeure' to shield itself on controversial data center

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giancarlostoro · 1790262685 · focus · HN ↗
I really don't get who keeps using Oracle outside of Java, and how they make their money, must be some legacy contracts or something, but Oracle has always been customer hostile, from all the things I've heard, they sound like a ransomware company (idk if they still do it, but they'd sell you the database, then "audit you" and if you used anything that wasn't in compliance, fine you, until you converted that to Oracle DB too or whatever wild stuff). I just don't get it. I get even less how its execs are okay running what could be a much more successful company so poorly. You can change Oracle for the better and become even more profitable if you change how you do business.
Take Java as a solid example, they removed JavaFX from the core of Java, which made everyone think JavaFX was dead, recently they started providing enterprise support for JavaFX, which signals its production ready, but, who wants to trust Oracle? I sure don't. I can use C# for free without any of that baggage, and if I get all sorts of stable options for a GUI, and with Avalonia (and Uno?) I can run my GUI on any OS.
1. coredog64 · 1790264407 · focus · HN ↗
  Oracle is more than Java and an RDBMS. You cannot throw a rock without hitting a Fortune 500 company running PeopleSoft and/or the Oracle ERP.
  1. toomuchtodo · 1790269435 · focus · HN ↗
    FBI was breached via PeopleSoft. Do you think more companies would leave it if they were breached too?
    <a href="https://www.404media.co/we-hacked-the-fbi-hackers-say-they-have-data-on-all-fbi-employees/" rel="nofollow">https://www.404media.co/we-hacked-the-fbi-hackers-say-they-h...
    <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/22/hacking-group-shinyhunters-claims-it-breached-the-fbi-stole-agents-and-applicants-data/" rel="nofollow">https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/22/hacking-group-shinyhunters...
    halJordan · 1790303623 · focus · HN ↗
    The answer is clearly and resoundingly no. Honestly don't know how you typed that question out with the current state of corporate (ir)responsibility towards cybersecurity.
    toomuchtodo · 1790400903 · focus · HN ↗
    Because we’re going to get to find out.
    <a href="https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/shinyhunters-renewed-mass-exploitation-campaign-targeting-oracle-peoplesoft" rel="nofollow">https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/shi...

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