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Oracle cites 'force majeure' to shield itself on controversial data center

155 points · 153 comments · simonpure

  1. WokeUp420 · · focus · HN ↗
    The number of datacenters needing to come online doesn't add up to me. It's suspicious
    1. echelon · · focus · HN ↗
      When our spot instances go away and don't come back, that's a sign that there's not enough capacity.

      There is more demand for compute than there is supply, and that demand is going up.

      Look at all of the things that have been and are being automated and realize that we're year 6 into a hundred year journey.

      Look around you at all the things that aren't automated. They will be.

      The world you grew up in won't be here for much longer. We're going through a transformation even more dramatic than the industrial revolution. There were no airplanes and then we landed on the moon.

      Edit: downvotes as expected, but I'm shocked that a bunch of smart people at HN aren't taking the bet where this leads to a complete upending of the status quo. The holdout crowd needs to dream bigger.

      The models are solving Millennium Prize problems, finding novel biological pathways our scientists can't see, putting every single software engineer out of the job of "coding by hand", and doing the same to designers, marketers, filmmakers, and 3D artists who used to have to operate pixel by pixel / photon by photon.

      Everything is going to be AI soon.

      1. lelanthran · · focus · HN ↗
        > I'm shocked that a bunch of smart people at HN aren't taking the bet where this leads to a complete upending of the status quo.

        If your take on the abilities of AI is correct, we aren't talking about upending the status quo, we're talking about an ELE for the human race.

        1. epistasis · · focus · HN ↗
          There's a huge gap between what's being described in that comment and an "extinction level event" is that's what ELE means.

          What's being talked about is a massive extension of human capability, into the intellectual sphere rather than the physical environment. The atom bomb had a clear way to get to extinction, a sudden chain reaction that leads to collapse of the entire biome.

          The only way AI gets there is something like control of the nuclear weapons on all sides and that control becoming suicidal. Every other major event leads to at most civilization collapse, after which I assume we will have some sort of Butlerian Jihad restrictions on getting into the same situation.

          But, I would love to know what I'm missing here, if ELE has clearer routes!!

          1. keeda · · focus · HN ↗
            AI won’t even need to take control of nuclear weapons, it just needs to have a random (or maybe strategic? Hmmmm!) hallucination: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;ai&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;report-us-almost-boarded-chinese-ship-over-hallucinated-ai-arms-report&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;ai&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;report-us-almost-boarded-...
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