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Oracle cites 'force majeure' to shield itself on controversial data center

155 points · 153 comments · simonpure

ozlikethewizard · 1790260446 · focus · HN ↗
Doesn't 'Force Majeure' mean exceptional events outside ones control? Pretty sure everything involved here is Oracles own making lol
1. [deleted] · 1790260992 · focus · HN ↗
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2. chuckadams · 1790261503 · focus · HN ↗
  "No one could have predicted that permits and infrastructure necessary for this project's completion would be delayed". Except for every project that's needed permits and infrastructure ever.
  I hope whoever buys Oracle fires Larry by email.
  1. lelanthran · 1790263119 · focus · HN ↗
    > I hope whoever buys Oracle fires Larry by email.
    I certainly hope not; you can't fire[1] someone via email.
    ============================
    [1] Out of a canon. Into the sun.
    icepush · 1790265695 · focus · HN ↗
    Rumor is this feature will be in Opus 5.6
    iugtmkbdfil834 · 1790267507 · focus · HN ↗
    Honestly, I do have a list of people I can volunteer to test that new and exciting deliverable.
    RobRivera · 1790270133 · focus · HN ↗
    I chucked rather harshly, how dare you
    dmitrygr · 1790270833 · focus · HN ↗
    > Out of a canon. Into the sun.
    Takes too much delta-V. Like... a lot of delta-V. Shooting out of the solar system takes less energy. #begreen
3. mckirk · 1790261554 · focus · HN ↗
  "Well a wave hit it"
  1. 468854259853 · 1790263045 · focus · HN ↗
    A wave hit the Oracle?
    MrMorden · 1790277997 · focus · HN ↗
    And then the front fell off. The data center had to be towed outside the environment.
  2. throw0101c · 1790264605 · focus · HN ↗
    > "Well a wave hit it"
    I'm assuming this is a reference to the classic Clarke and Dawe skit:
    * <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM
    * <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke_and_Dawe" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke_and_Dawe
4. sam1714 · 1790264688 · focus · HN ↗
  Force majeure can be defined within contracts. So if the contract said that force majeure included changes in law or failure to receive permits, then it's force majeure. There can also be a separate "change in law" provision.
  One can't say whether it's valid or not without reading the actual contract and looking at the state's case law.

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