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1. DarkNova6 · 1790255345 · focus · HN ↗

   I am more and more convinced that young people have a much better understanding of technology and especially its impact on society.

   1. sunaookami · 1790255802 · focus · HN ↗

      They can't even use a computer, they struggle with basic computer knowledge because they grow up with closed ecosystems and most of them only have smartphones, not a desktop PC. They are called "Digital Naives" (sic) for a reason.

      1. latentsea · 1790312262 · focus · HN ↗

         My son (11) constantly refers to kids like this as 'ipad kids'. He has a PC and has taught himself to program, so I think he looks down on kids like this, which seems to be the majority of them.

         1. esarbe · 1790337296 · focus · HN ↗

            We're wasting the potential of at least two generations. It's horrible.

            1. latentsea · 1790345860 · focus · HN ↗

               Well, if the frontier AI labs get their way the development of the brains of the next generation is wholly unnecessary. I expect they feel as much deep in their bones as they sit through the drudgery of school without a future to put any of it to use.

               1. esarbe · 1790424842 · focus · HN ↗

                  The damage done by doomscrolling and social media goes far beyond the "development of the brain for reasons of economic participation". Also, you seem to think the development of the brain doesn't have any purpose beyond that - a view I don't share.

                  If - and that if is doing some heavy lifting; given the underlying, fundamental problems of LLMs it doesn't make any sense to assume that we'll get there anytime soon - LLM AIs will be able to dominate economy in such a way that humans cannot compete anymore, that simply means that humans will have tons of free time at their hands. ( There's a reason for the grain dole that the Roman elites handed out to the poor of the city. I assume if you have a whole population that doesn't have anything valuable to contribute to the economy, the economy will still have to find a way to sustain them. Otherwise riots.)

                  A well developed brain seems to be exactly what I would want in such a case.

                  1. latentsea · 1790431095 · focus · HN ↗

                     Tonnes of free time, an undying need for validation from other humans, and an inability to tolerate boredom. The way to compete and gain status will be through violence. If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.

                     1. esarbe · 1790457963 · focus · HN ↗

                        You're describing the human condition.

                        That hasn't changed for the last 300k years.

                        1. latentsea · 1790559563 · focus · HN ↗

                           The condition hasn't. The conditions have (in most places). So, I'm expected a regression to the mean. I don't see that as a positive, desirable development.

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