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'That's so AI ' What gen Alpha's biggest insult tells us

216 points · 323 comments · YeGoblynQueenne

keiferski · 1790255905 · focus · HN ↗
In the world of arts/media, I think AI basically only has a future as a hidden thing. Openly admitting that you used AI to make something will be used against you, in order to dismiss your work. For a lot of people/things, it already is - see Hank Green, or the daily comments about "I don't want to read what you didn't write."
Expect a massive marketing reversal in 6-12 months, when every "AI-powered" company removes the keyword from their home page.
1. tengbretson · 1790256722 · focus · HN ↗
  That used to be true of autotune too. It was either tastefully hidden, or obvious and trashy. Then projects like 808s and Heartbreak and Tha Carter III put it front and center and it's been a legitimate tool ever since.
  I didn't know if generative ai has a strong enough signature to go through the same evolution, but I wouldn't be shocked if it did.
  1. vconnor · 1790265998 · focus · HN ↗
    Autotune is legitimate as a surgical tool, used as little as necessary so you can't ever hear it, not when it's front and center as they have tried to do in the 2010 era of awful.
    AI is still in the 2010 autotune phase, where more is better.
    tengbretson · 1790272319 · focus · HN ↗
    AI is in its 1999 JLO If You Had My Love phase.
    Though if 2010, the year that Lost in the World was released, is your marker of an awful era, then I suspect that when generative ai does get used to create real art you will likely not be a fan of that either.
    mitxela · 1790302021 · focus · HN ↗
    there's an artistic effect I keep seeing that only works with generative AI. It seems to be alternating traditional transforms (translate, rotate, scale, perspective, color shift, take your pick of anything you want) with diffusion steps to bring the resulting image back to the same semantic prompt every frame. Looks trippy, like the image is moving, yet also staying the same (like a Shepard tone), and also constantly drifting in details because AI's not that good.
    10000truths · 1790311662 · focus · HN ↗
    Do you have a link to an example? I'm curious to see the effect you're describing.
    mitxela · 1790337728 · focus · HN ↗
    no sorry, it's not really googleable and it's not what the other person linked to
    sethaurus · 1790317569 · focus · HN ↗
    Sidebar: if you're also mitxela on youtube, I just had the strange experience of reading this comment while listening to your voice from a different window!
    centizen · 1790318465 · focus · HN ↗
    You aren’t the only one, and I had the added effect of not even realizing it until your comment
    amatecha · 1790319248 · focus · HN ↗
    I re-read your message a bunch of times to make sense of it and finally realized what you might be describing -- is it like this? <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQuXE6gRUA" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQuXE6gRUA (Lorn - ENTROPYYY)
    landdate · 1790304061 · focus · HN ↗
    you must not listen to anh popular music
    pvab3 · 1790341192 · focus · HN ↗
    I don't have a problem with the T-pain style of autotune. The worst form of it when it's used on every single note without the ridiculous note-snapping effect that makes it so obvious
    I could come up with a thousand examples, but I remember when I was in college and listening to a lot of 90s music. Blink 182 had this album come out, and I couldn't even listen to 3 seconds of vocals because of the insane amount of pitch correction grinding the life out of everything:
    <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lic0oCDMfwk&t=15s" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lic0oCDMfwk&t=15s

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