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Two-tier encryption in the UK

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  1. failbuffer · · focus · HN ↗
    No need to speculate that the UK government "might" one day become the bad guys: they already arrest over 30 people a day for speech that offends the prevailing political orthodoxy.

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;steveforbes&#x2F;2025&#x2F;09&#x2F;09&#x2F;people-are-being-thrown-in-uk-prisons-over-what-theyve-said-online-can-free-speech-be-saved&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;steveforbes&#x2F;2025&#x2F;09&#x2F;09&#x2F;people-a...

    1. Aurornis · · focus · HN ↗
      Everyone should read the case of the IT consultant getting arrested in the UK because he posted a photo of him doing some target shooting during a trip to the US: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lbc.co.uk&#x2F;article&#x2F;consultant-arrested-linkedin-shotgun-florida-5HjdNhP_2&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lbc.co.uk&#x2F;article&#x2F;consultant-arrested-linkedin-s...

      Stories like this quickly put to rest the idea that everyone who gets arrested must actually deserve it. The bar for posting content that violates the law is very low.

      There was also the tragic story of the Cambridge professor who was completely unqualified and had a fake life story. When journalists would get close to the story he would report them to the police for harassment to spike the stories.

      1. chmod775 · · focus · HN ↗
        I don&#x27;t know about that case, but the bar is as low as it can be anyways. Hapless UK police are willing to play attack dog for nearly anyone.

        Someone got arrested and intimidated by police because they criticized someone with even only a modicom of authority: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;uk-news&#x2F;2025&#x2F;mar&#x2F;29&#x2F;parents-arrested-by-hertfordshire-police-for-complaining-about-daughters-school" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;uk-news&#x2F;2025&#x2F;mar&#x2F;29&#x2F;parents-arre...

        Imagine getting six police officers sent to your house and spending 11 hours at a police station for causing &quot;disharmony&quot; by disagreeing with how your daughter&#x27;s school operates in a WhatsApp group. In a sensible country that might&#x27;ve been a phone call or a single officer stopping to chat and defusing the situation if police decided to get involved at all.

        1. Accacin · · focus · HN ↗
          Your country doesn&#x27;t make mistakes involving police? Really?

          Wasn&#x27;t there a story about a woman getting put in jail for having spaghetti on a spoon that they thought was drugs? Lost her job?

          <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.syracuse.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;florida_woman_jailed_spaghettio_sauce_meth.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.syracuse.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;florida_woman_jailed_s...

          Yeah, imagine that. Getting put in jail for a month.

          1. chmod775 · · focus · HN ↗
            Do you think this is some &quot;my country vs your country&quot; competition? It&#x27;s not. I wasn&#x27;t trying to wound any national pride either.

            Also I&#x27;m not from Florida or the US for that matter.

            1. Accacin · · focus · HN ↗
              No one here seriously thinks the UK is faultless or beyond criticism. This isn&#x27;t about national pride.

              But you&#x27;re just peddling false narratives which are easily disproved, which are rampant especially on right wing news sites. So you might not be right leaning, but people who write and share them generally are.

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