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Two-tier encryption in the UK

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  1. egorfine · · focus · HN ↗
    I genuinely believe that in 2015 Apple had the balls to resist and today they don't.

    I am judging by a simple fact, that "please confirm your age" screen is now mandatory during the iPhone setup in all countries, and in some it's behind a KYC. I have a strong opinion that this is insane. And once they let the foot in the door - there is no closing it.

    1. briffle · · focus · HN ↗
      They never did. they had the balls to resist against western governments, where it was politically adventagous to do so. They folded to China real quick, because they wanted to make sales. All "icloud storage" in china has been on another storage platform, that follows all the local laws.
      1. egorfine · · focus · HN ↗
        Folding before China in China is not the same as folding before totalitarian western demands.
        1. throwawayffffas · · focus · HN ↗
          Why? They only disabled ADP in the UK, how is it different?
          1. unified101 · · focus · HN ↗
            It isn't.
            1. Matl · · focus · HN ↗
              Except for where Western governments pearl clutch about freedom and how free and open they are unlike big, bad China and all that.
              1. pocksuppet · · focus · HN ↗
                Remember that North Koreans genuinely believe they are living in the most free country on earth.
                1. rhamzeh · · focus · HN ↗
                  Two questions: * How many North Koreans do you know to make such a statement? And what do you personally know about North Korea? * Do you think you are living on the most free country on earth (regardless of where you live)?
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