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1. egorfine · 1790257864 · focus · HN ↗

   I genuinely believe that in 2015 Apple had the balls to resist and today they don't.

   I am judging by a simple fact, that "please confirm your age" screen is now mandatory during the iPhone setup in all countries, and in some it's behind a KYC. I have a strong opinion that this is insane. And once they let the foot in the door - there is no closing it.

   1. someonebaggy · 1790263487 · focus · HN ↗

      Is it required to KYC in those countries?

      I'm generally okay with "how old are you?" without KYC and changeable later. It just allows apps and websites to display age-appropriate content.

      1. egorfine · 1790264106 · focus · HN ↗

         > I'm generally okay with "how old are you?"

         It's a foot in the door. Once this question exists, the next logical one is "prove it".

         1. ajsnigrutin · 1790264862 · focus · HN ↗

            Same with digital IDs (for example the EU one), where you'll have to install it to provide a "zero knowledge" proof today, and since you already have everything in your phone, it'll be easy to implement the "real name" policy when registering/commenting/etc.

            1. someonebaggy · 1790267563 · focus · HN ↗

               I'm not aware of any EU project to make a smartphone literally mandatory (instead of just convenient). If they do, I'll buy a separate smartphone just to hold my ID.

               1. ajsnigrutin · 1790279384 · focus · HN ↗

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                  1. mitxela · 1790304176 · focus · HN ↗

                     But you don&#x27;t have to use that? They still issue ID cards

                     1. ajsnigrutin · 1790328974 · focus · HN ↗

                        How will you insert your physical ID card into your computer to prove pornhub you&#x27;re old enough to jerk off to porn? Or buy a dildo on amazon? Or order booze online? Or in some countries, even just order a set of kitchen knives from ikea?

                        1. mitxela · 1790335135 · focus · HN ↗

                           They already have card readers you use to scan your id on bank websites if that&#x27;s what you mean

                           1. ajsnigrutin · 1790437589 · focus · HN ↗

                              Yes, physical readers exist, how will inserting my ID card into a reader tell reddit that i&#x27;m an adult and that i can jerk off to gonewild there?

                              The EU digital id, ncluding the age verification part is (unless they fixed it already) limited to hardware attested, non-rooted, not-unlocked androids and apples for now. If you want to jerk off to porn, you&#x27;re basically mandated to buy an american device (well, you will be, unless they fix it).

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