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Two-tier encryption in the UK

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  1. failbuffer · · focus · HN ↗
    No need to speculate that the UK government "might" one day become the bad guys: they already arrest over 30 people a day for speech that offends the prevailing political orthodoxy.

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    1. cjrp · · focus · HN ↗
      How many of those 30 are unarguably &quot;bad&quot; posts though? Threats of violence and so forth.
      1. erkt · · focus · HN ↗
        250 years ago some people made some bad posts about throwing some tea into the harbor. Calling for revolution isn&#x27;t a bad post.
        1. _verandaguy · · focus · HN ↗
          This comment is remarkable in its lack of nuance. There&#x27;s a huge spectrum of, let&#x27;s call it, aggressive speech, ranging from trying to organize against an oppressive figure or class, to just punching down against people and groups who have either done nothing to the author of that speech which warrants an aggressive response, or where the target of that speech is already a victim.

          My opinion is that free-speech absolutism is a policy position that causes much more harm than good, and which erodes social cohesion. There should be perpetual debate about where we as a society accept where the line is between speech which is allowed and that which is disallowed.

          And to wit, on the tea party analogy: how&#x27;s that working for the US now?

          1. etcetcetcetceta · · focus · HN ↗
            &gt;There&#x27;s a huge spectrum of, let&#x27;s call it, aggressive speech, ranging from…

            Why do you talk like that?

            Are you one of the redditors that has been invading this heterodox environment.

            &gt;There&#x27;s a spectrum of aggressive speech, ranging from

            Is sufficient and much less cringe.

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