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Two-tier encryption in the UK

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failbuffer · 1790256694 · focus · HN ↗
No need to speculate that the UK government "might" one day become the bad guys: they already arrest over 30 people a day for speech that offends the prevailing political orthodoxy.
[1] <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2025/09/09/people-are-being-thrown-in-uk-prisons-over-what-theyve-said-online-can-free-speech-be-saved/" rel="nofollow">https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2025/09/09/people-a...
1. cjrp · 1790257222 · focus · HN ↗
  How many of those 30 are unarguably "bad" posts though? Threats of violence and so forth.
  1. erkt · 1790257552 · focus · HN ↗
    250 years ago some people made some bad posts about throwing some tea into the harbor. Calling for revolution isn't a bad post.
    monkey_monkey · 1790258007 · focus · HN ↗
    Big fucking difference between saying you want to throw some tea into a harbor vs inciting that hotels containing asylum seekers should be burnt down.
    enedil · 1790258606 · focus · HN ↗
    That's charitable to say that nobody was saying anything except for "let's drown that tea".
    monkey_monkey · 1790259065 · focus · HN ↗
    Weird that you think it was legal for people to say "kill the king" back then.
    UpsideDownRide · 1790260076 · focus · HN ↗
    Diffrence being state did not have control to stop disgruntled people from organizing. And it might be that preventing such formations is actually detrimental long run.
    someonebaggy · 1790263342 · focus · HN ↗
    The state did everything they could to prevent it back then, just as they do right now.
    cucumber3732842 · 1790265563 · focus · HN ↗
    Everything they could was a lot less back before the fruits of industrial productivity allowed people to have their basic needs met while giving a huge fraction of their surplus to the state to do what it pleases with.

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