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Two-tier encryption in the UK

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  1. failbuffer · · focus · HN ↗
    No need to speculate that the UK government "might" one day become the bad guys: they already arrest over 30 people a day for speech that offends the prevailing political orthodoxy.

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;steveforbes&#x2F;2025&#x2F;09&#x2F;09&#x2F;people-are-being-thrown-in-uk-prisons-over-what-theyve-said-online-can-free-speech-be-saved&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;steveforbes&#x2F;2025&#x2F;09&#x2F;09&#x2F;people-a...

    1. rich_sasha · · focus · HN ↗
      I’d say it is a very low quality article. There is very little detail about what the offending speech actually includes. For example:

      &gt; The wife of a conservative politician was sentenced to 31 months in prison for what police said was an unacceptable post.

      What did she say? The article does not elucidate.

      Inciting violence for example is not legal. I believe spaces around abortion clinics are also to be free from demonstrations. US free speech absolutists seem to vehemently disagree until you say something unkind about Charlie Kirk or ICE.

      The low point might be quoting Elon Musk. This is true in any context, but in particular here. The scandal is real, but none of it is about people being arrested for non-politically-correct speech.

      There’s plenty of otherwise real stuff to poke the UK about.

      1. ljf · · focus · HN ↗
        I don&#x27;t have time to dig up her post - but she was calling on people to set fire to hotels housing asylum seekers - she had around 10,000 followers, and her post was read 300,000 times: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;c5yl7p4l11po" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.co.uk&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;c5yl7p4l11po
        1. Quarrelsome · · focus · HN ↗
          oh and in court she rested her entire defence on the tragic death of one of her children a decade prior. However her device had been confiscated and her WhatsApp messages to a friend included &quot;if I end up in court I&#x27;ll play the mental health card&quot;.
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