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Two-tier encryption in the UK

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  1. egorfine · · focus · HN ↗
    I genuinely believe that in 2015 Apple had the balls to resist and today they don't.

    I am judging by a simple fact, that "please confirm your age" screen is now mandatory during the iPhone setup in all countries, and in some it's behind a KYC. I have a strong opinion that this is insane. And once they let the foot in the door - there is no closing it.

    1. someonebaggy · · focus · HN ↗
      Is it required to KYC in those countries?

      I'm generally okay with "how old are you?" without KYC and changeable later. It just allows apps and websites to display age-appropriate content.

      1. egorfine · · focus · HN ↗
        > I'm generally okay with "how old are you?"

        It's a foot in the door. Once this question exists, the next logical one is "prove it".

        1. someonebaggy · · focus · HN ↗
          Ok but my phone already asks me for my name, isn't that bad too?
          1. egorfine · · focus · HN ↗
            Does it require you to prove your legal name?
            1. throwawayffffas · · focus · HN ↗
              Isn't that the next logical step according to your logic?
            2. [deleted] · · focus · HN ↗

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          2. simulator5g · · focus · HN ↗
            Yes.
          3. nkrisc · · focus · HN ↗
            It asks for a name.
            1. someonebaggy · · focus · HN ↗
              And an age
              1. nkrisc · · focus · HN ↗
                Steam thinks I’m 126 years old.
          4. fc417fc802 · · focus · HN ↗
            If you leave it blank or otherwise don't answer does it restrict your functionality?

            But anyway it's not really the same thing until and unless governments start making motions to collect a legal name. And even then it still provides some general utility to the user which providing an age doesn't (unless you're setting up the device for a child ofc).

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