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Starlink ground station in Poland hit by fire in suspected arson attack

183 points · 182 comments · giuliomagnifico

Shank · 1790247119 · focus · HN ↗
It feels like it’s very, very risky territory for these activities to be “occurring” in a NATO country. I’m sure everyone else is thinking the same thing, but at what point does Article 5 get invoked?
1. newsclues · 1790247329 · focus · HN ↗
  Unlikely given that disposable cutout agents or useful idiots are used.
  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrestricted_Warfare" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrestricted_Warfare or hybrid warfare is designed to avoid full military action. But the tit for tat escalation in kind can lead to real war.
  1. WJW · 1790247748 · focus · HN ↗
    It would be interesting to see graphs of how similarly "unprovable" sabotage actions have developed in Russia over the past few years. I doubt we'd ever see accurate reporting out of Russia, but it seems like an obvious thing to do for both Ukrainian intelligence and also for the wider West. It's also be likely to be underreported on because neither the perpetrator nor the victim gains all that much from reporting these kind of things.
    FatalLogic · 1790250084 · focus · HN ↗
    >it seems like an obvious thing to do for both Ukrainian intelligence
    Yes it must be obvious for Ukraine to use people who are already in Russia to help with local sabotage. It could be as as crude as putting rocks on a rail line or as simple as floating toy balloons across a strategic installation until the local Russian defenses get tired of the false alarms, stop paying attention and don't see an incoming drone.
    It's surprising that there are apparently no strong claims of this from either side, but especially from the Russian side. I don't agree that Russia has nothing to gain from arresting people for such activities. Wouldn't it deter others?
    yorwba · 1790254879 · focus · HN ↗
    It's not hard to find reporting about people in Russia getting arrested for sabotage: <a href="https://en.zona.media/article/2026/07/21/sabotage" rel="nofollow">https://en.zona.media/article/2026/07/21/sabotage

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