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Meta takes down a critical video about meta AI Glasses after filming at Meta

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jimbo456 · 1790253899 · focus · HN ↗
We need to move beyond just banning these glasses - all smart glasses of all kinds - to breaking up these companies. Undo the acquisitions of Insta and Whatsapp - I don't care that will be expensive, thats a shareholders problem.
1. acd · 1790254799 · focus · HN ↗
  We should together stop calling devices which film in dressing / locker rooms smart.
  These devices record video & sound track serve Ads and do Data fusion
  What if you took a cam corder to a locker room? People would be upset, that is not allowed. That would not be nice. This is not nice either
  1. cogman10 · 1790255163 · focus · HN ↗
    Much like a cell phone, nobody would even really care if you brought a camcorder down so long as you aren't operating it (which is very obvious).
    What makes these things gross is that it's not obvious when someone is recording.
    b112 · 1790256887 · focus · HN ↗
    I agree we should do something in this instance, but with the speed of which things are changing? Eventually, this tech is going to be undetectable.
    "Oh no that's sci-fi and decades away", I really don't think so. I think neuralink, and competitors too, will next move on to reading the visual cortex. They already have plans to push data to the visual cortex, to enable the blind to "see", reading in healthy people seems quite doable.
    I expect something like this to happen before 2030.
    Regardless, I agree for now? Yes. But the future? I don't see it as blockable forever.
    There are two ways we decide how severe the punishment for broken laws is. One is to enable just punishment. The other is deterrent. This may fall into "deterrent is the bigger part of the sentence", where people posting private information receive years in jail as a result.
    There is a little bit of a conversation about this here:
    <a href="https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/cndii-cdncii/p6.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/cndii-cdncii...
    And the above certainly covers Meta glasses too.
    I think it won't be long before it's the posting of non-consensual imagery that is so criminal, that few will do so. For years in Quebec, sharing of images captured in public isn't really legit. You control "images of yourself", regardless of where they are taken, public places or not:
    <a href="https://educaloi.qc.ca/en/capsules/your-right-to-control-photos-and-videos-of-yourself/" rel="nofollow">https://educaloi.qc.ca/en/capsules/your-right-to-control-pho...
    And they're so worried about problems with image sharing, they've almost automated the process to deal with it:
    <a href="https://www.quebec.ca/en/justice-and-civil-status/support-victims-crime/non-consensual-sharing-intimate-image" rel="nofollow">https://www.quebec.ca/en/justice-and-civil-status/support-vi...
    So this is already being criminalized in a lot of places.
    pessimizer · 1790262336 · focus · HN ↗
    > Regardless, I agree for now? Yes. But the future? I don't see it as blockable forever.
    It's increasingly necessary not to allow guests to bring their devices into your house or establishment. Somebody should go into business doing courtesy phones, where you can switch your sim/esim at the door to a dumbphone owned by the business.
    When it comes to smart glasses, if they're prescription you had better have spares or you're going to be blind.
    Canada's censorship solutions are no solution; you can't stop people from doing things by cracking down on civil liberties, people will just ignore you and do it anyway. Then you're stuck chasing anonymity, now your entire society is totalitarian and everything is rooted. In order to fight the totalitarian surveillance and tracking instituted because you wouldn't tell some pervert to take his robot glasses off, the electorate makes MechaHitler your PM, and it's now in control of your surveillance system.
    It would be very funny if Skynet took over because people elected it, like Hitler did.
    b112 · 1790273027 · focus · HN ↗
    It's not censorship to be in control of your own likeness. And having laws which are easy to call upon is part of justice being served. In the Quebec example, someone posting something about you is as easy as 'take that down' then 'police are called if you disobey the court', which is really how courts have always worked everywhere around the world.
    The US has a crazier takedown regime, letting companies do this. At least in Canada it goes through a court, it's about your personal likeness, and you can contest it.

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