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1. jimbo456 · 1790253899 · focus · HN ↗

   We need to move beyond just banning these glasses - all smart glasses of all kinds - to breaking up these companies. Undo the acquisitions of Insta and Whatsapp - I don't care that will be expensive, thats a shareholders problem.

   1. acd · 1790254799 · focus · HN ↗

      We should together stop calling devices which film in dressing / locker rooms smart.

      These devices record video & sound track serve Ads and do Data fusion

      What if you took a cam corder to a locker room? People would be upset, that is not allowed. That would not be nice. This is not nice either

      1. nnutter · 1790257070 · focus · HN ↗

         I don't like it but it's totally normal, especially for youth, to have their cell phones out in locker rooms. Targeting only glasses with this concern is largely out of touch with current behavior.

         1. ohrus · 1790257480 · focus · HN ↗

            That isn't normal and it's actively enforced against in gyms and pools where I live.

            Glasses are passively recording. Recording with a phone is active (for the most part). You need to take it out and point it at what you are recording...

            1. tuckerman · 1790258129 · focus · HN ↗

               > That isn't normal

               Every gym I've been to is full of people with phones out in the locker room, from cheap chain gyms to the nicer athletic club I currently go to. My experience is much closer to GP.

               > Glasses are passively recording

               All the smart glasses I know of have a light on when recording. My phone does not and can be much more discreet (subject to the fact that everyone has a phone out already).

               I agree that if a location is actively banning phone use patrons should absolutely also be asked to take off smart glasses.

               1. AlecSchueler · 1790258349 · focus · HN ↗

                  > All the smart glasses I know of have a light on when recording.

                  How long until someone differentiates themselves on the market by not having the light?

                  1. tuckerman · 1790258813 · focus · HN ↗

                     I would be surprised if those don't already exist, I hear stories in the news all the time about small hidden cameras places they shouldn't be. For a private space like the locker room I'm not sure what option there is besides laws making that illegal (I assume/hope that already is?). Someone dedicated already can get a much more discreet camera.

                     For public spaces, at least where I am, there really isn't a legal expectation of privacy. I couldn't tell if someone was watching YouTube or filming me with their phone and I probably don't have any recourse anyway.

                  2. myvoiceismypass · 1790259142 · focus · HN ↗

                     People already sell services to disable the light.
                  3. soylentcola · 1790259832 · focus · HN ↗

                     Not to minimize Meta's push for these things, but there have been devices that do this for quite a while now. You can get tiny cameras hidden in pens, watches, glasses, and all sorts of other items.

                     It's just that in the past, these were sold by janky companies selling them as spy/hidden cameras, not massive multinational data brokers like Meta.

               2. dns_snek · 1790335802 · focus · HN ↗

                  > All the smart glasses I know of have a light on when recording.

                  that light can be easily disabled

                  <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pcmag.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;modders-can-remove-the-recording-light-from-metas-smart-glasses-for-a-price" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pcmag.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;modders-can-remove-the-recording-...

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