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1. vintagedave · 1790241637 · focus · HN ↗

   > the breach took place on 18 June - Open AI informed the government with an email to a general address on 10 September

   So we have a company hacking a foreign government's websites and data. And, in terms of ethics, they take almost three months to notify; and in terms of competence, appear to have no formal contacts nor to have found one in that time.

   Once an American business starts hacking allied governments, it's time for strict responses, yes? Replace the governance (board and C-level)? Remove financial incentives and open the company - open weights, open training, per its original 'open' ethos?

   Altman is busy saying there needs to be regulation, but in terms of what OpenAI does, he can control that already.

   1. nkoren · 1790251842 · focus · HN ↗

      Agreed that there should be real consequences, but I'm less convinced that "open the company - open weights, open training, per its original 'open' ethos" would be the right answer. That gets us into the kind of libertarian utopia where everyone is allegedly safer because everybody is well-armed... which usually doesn't work out so well in practice.

      1. cmrdporcupine · 1790254330 · focus · HN ↗

         The alternative to "open weights" at this point is "American controlled."

         And Dario and Sam have already made it clear that it's America First.

         The rest of the world isn't going to accept a regulatory regime which imposes American hegemony. Maybe when Silicon Valley was playing all utopian like they used to. Not now.

         Open weights is the most reasonable counter-power we have.

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