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1. surfmike · 1790217985 · focus · HN ↗

   When the CEOs of these companies are saying that we will risk extinction and jobs will be decimated, why do you even need a "foreign agent"?

   1. _heimdall · 1790218287 · focus · HN ↗

      Said CEOs are horribly biased, they have fiduciary responsibilities that make them useless judges on the relative risk/reward balance of LLMs and AI, if we get there.

      1. c0nducktr · 1790218781 · focus · HN ↗

         Claiming your product increases the risk of extinction doesn't sound like something someone would do if it were just for fiduciary duty.

         1. icepush · 1790221455 · focus · HN ↗

            If their activities materially increase the probability of human extinction and this poses a risk of potential loss to shareholders then they must disclose it.

            1. vkou · 1790233242 · focus · HN ↗

               If their activities materially increase the probability of human extinction, is there any reason that they should not be treated as invading aliens, or doomsday apocalypse-cult terrorists?

               Like, why on Earth would anyone tolerate someone in the same train car playing with a grenade?

               1. someonebaggy · 1790234359 · focus · HN ↗

                  If we treated people they eat based on those criteria we'd have to treat oil companies and all political parties that way too.

                  1. someonebaggy · 1790241713 · focus · HN ↗

                     I have no idea how these extra words "they eat" ended up in my comment. It was autocorrect.
                  2. vkou · 1790266604 · focus · HN ↗

                     The politicians don't actively promise that what they are doing has a 10% chance of ending humanity, in fact, they claim the opposite.
               2. icepush · 1790237716 · focus · HN ↗

                  In my opinion, no; but they are now getting in bed (Metaphorically) with people who see their software as potential means to "beat China" or "beat Iran" and together they are weaving a very tangled Pandora's box of worms
               3. braj0 · 1790347880 · focus · HN ↗

                  I dunno, we share an earth with North Korea who has nukes... which perfectly fits your "same train car playing with a grenade" analogy, but we don't do anything about it.

                  Are you gonna continue to tolerate it? Or are you gonna stop them from playing with grenades in this train car we call earth?

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