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Feds Target AI Critics as "Foreign Agents"

396 points · 457 comments · nmeagent

  1. surfmike · · focus · HN ↗
    When the CEOs of these companies are saying that we will risk extinction and jobs will be decimated, why do you even need a "foreign agent"?
    1. godwinson__4-8 · · focus · HN ↗
      Yet everyone laughed at the Google engineer who thought the LLM was sentient and it was being tortured...

      People just pick and choose what they want to hear when it suits them. The fact is most people thought AI was a joke. Now they realize it does React better than them they want it outlawed.

      It's their right to pursue their electoral and economic self-interest but it's really not like the average voter is more principled than the average tech CEO at this point.

      This fed was voted in by this public. Maybe stop lionizing what other people think and think for yourself.

      Do you think we risk extinction now more than ever because of AI? A simple refrain from slippery slope will show most AI doomerism is bordering on psychosis.

      I haven't seen one convincing model of AI existential risk. Can anyone offer one?

      1. jrflowers · · focus · HN ↗
        > Now they realize it does React better than them they want it outlawed.

        You think people oppose data centers in their towns to protect their React jobs?

        1. godwinson__4-8 · · focus · HN ↗
          NIMBYism is nothing new and is clearly not what I am talking about.

          Try to keep up.

          I'm talking about the widening backlash of which knowledge workers are an increasing part. Much of this is coming from people who have never seen a data center in their life and are always going to want critical infrastructure to be built in the next town over.

          1. sophacles · · focus · HN ↗
            You know, here's what i don't understand...

            Instead of ranting about nimbyism, why not go to these neighborhoods where people don't want to live next to datacenters, and offer to trade houses with them?

            You get the datacenters you want, and they get the place they want without a datacenter. I know you won't, because you only think the consequences of a datacenter next door are just fine when its other people who have to deal with them.

            1. hardbass · · focus · HN ↗
              Yes, easily, I'd happily go there. What does a data center do to me? Nothing.
              1. someonebaggy · · focus · HN ↗
                In general, you're right. They are just buildings that sit there emitting hot air.

                However these AI ones are being built with all expenses spared. That's why they come with on-site electricity generation that is loud enough to keep the whole town awake at night and pollutes enough to give them all permanent asthma.

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