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Feds Target AI Critics as "Foreign Agents"

396 points · 457 comments · nmeagent

  1. surfmike · · focus · HN ↗
    When the CEOs of these companies are saying that we will risk extinction and jobs will be decimated, why do you even need a "foreign agent"?
    1. tcdent · · focus · HN ↗
      Multiple things can be true at the same time.
      1. surfmike · · focus · HN ↗
        There can be foreign agents criticizing AI, but not all people criticizing AI are foreign agents.

        Trump is painting critics with a wide brush:

        "The people that say AI is going to destroy the World, and that Data Centers are bad for your neighborhood, are the same people that said, just a short time ago, that the World would be extinguished by “Climate Change.” That HOAX never worked out for them, and now they’re on to the next one. These people are Revolutionaries, but Revolutionaries for a Bad and Evil Cause. Soon you’ll find out they’re working for people that do not have the best interests of the United States in mind!"

        1. 1shooner · · focus · HN ↗
          I don't trust the administration to use the law in good faith, but this article is misquoting the DoJ statement. The articles omits the very relevant qualifier:

          The article:

          > Last week, the Justice Department instructed “citizens and noncitizens” that anyone furthering the “goals” of a foreign power in “any public activity” — including even “public demonstrations” — must formally notify the government to avoid arrest and prosecution.

          The DoJ:

          >“If a person acts as an agent of any foreign power to carry out any public activity, including (but not limited to) public demonstrations designed to further the propaganda or other goals of the foreign power, he or she must register with or notify the appropriate federal authorities”

          1. overfeed · · focus · HN ↗
            So the first amendment is suspended for individuals whose opinion/public activity - according to the administration - "furthers the goals of a foreign power".

            This rules out protesting any kind of war, tariffs, or even things the administration likes, like demonstrating in support of Israel. Obviously the plan is not to apply the rule evenly, its just an authoritarian lever to silence dissenting speech the government does not like.

            1. AnnikaL · · focus · HN ↗
              Would this not mean that if you oppose the Iran war because it's bad to kill civilians or you want gas prices to go down, that's OK - but if you oppose the Iran war because you're trying to help the Iranian government's foreign policy goals, that's acting as a foreign agent?

              (Similarly, demonstrating in support of Israel because you think the US-Israel alliance is good for the US vs. good for Israel.)

              1. freeone3000 · · focus · HN ↗
                I guess that’s a defense you could claim to the judge, at the trial, after being arrested.
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