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Feds Target AI Critics as "Foreign Agents"

396 points · 457 comments · nmeagent

  1. 737min · · focus · HN ↗
    CCP is pushing and amplifying AI opposition efforts, that’s a fact regardless of US politics. CCP is also working hard to smuggle around American export control laws for AI tech, at the same time.

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    1. dumberquestions · · focus · HN ↗
      I have no doubt China is taking part, what I doubt is that this makes any meaningful part of the total US anti AI sentiment, which can be much more easily explained by job loss anxieties, fear of massive change and good old NIMBYism. (Obligatory not an American).
      1. dosisking · · focus · HN ↗
        I am not necessarily anti-AI. I am more anti-Sam Altman, against using LLMs to usurp power, and against using AI as a scapegoat to abdicate responsibility for decisions that are made. AI itself encompasses so much more than LLMs.
        1. Onavo · · focus · HN ↗
          Sam at least can be understood. He&#x27;s in it to make money and nothing else. The most dangerous men are people like Dario, who sit on top of their elitist towers and think they are right and will burn down the world in the name of righteousness.
          1. matheusmoreira · · focus · HN ↗
            Anthropic unironically uses the word &quot;uplift&quot; in their documentation. They think we are lesser beings.
            1. no-name-here · · focus · HN ↗
              1. Does every other company that says their products will uplift people &quot;think we are lesser beings&quot;?

              2. Which documentation are you referring to? Googing &quot;site:anthropic.com uplift&quot; most of the top hits seem to be about bio research, another is about measuring agent performance (not a comparison to people), or &quot;These are Anthropic’s internal designators for actors observed to be abusing AI. The report also attempts to measure uplift, a term we use to describe the AI capability boost, or how much more harm was caused with AI versus without AI.&quot;

            2. Marha01 · · focus · HN ↗
              That is a ridiculously reaching statement.
            3. willy_k · · focus · HN ↗
              To add some context, uplift in the context of futurism literally refers to a species fast-tracking another’s progress.
              1. no-name-here · · focus · HN ↗
                Has Anthropic used uplift in that sense? I spent ~5 minutes trying to find an example like that but couldn&#x27;t find them doing so. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49826215">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49826215
          2. no-name-here · · focus · HN ↗
            &gt; will burn down the world in the name of righteousness

            Is this referring to the &#x27;safe development of AI&#x27;, as they say AI development will happen even if they don’t exist, but other companies are less focused on AI safety?

            1. watwut · · focus · HN ↗
              Their idea of safety and alignement is sane person dyatopia and harm.

              Meanwhile, they dont care about acrual harm to real people. They sell to Palantier for christ sake.

            2. classified · · focus · HN ↗
              Don&#x27;t panic, uncle Donald absolves you of the righteousness. He will burn the world just for the lulz.
          3. myaccountonhn · · focus · HN ↗
            Luckily we can declare that they&#x27;re both bad and neither should be our overlord.
          4. heresie-dabord · · focus · HN ↗
            &gt; and will burn down the world in the name of righteousness.

            The righteousness of making a fast buck is also burning down the world.

        2. detourdog · · focus · HN ↗
          Early days LLMs were declared an auditable. This was such a ridiculous idea that technology was so complicated and able to give good results without understanding why.

          That was not from any foreign actors but the companies themselves. I’m sure that is no longer the case. My technology life is rich enough that I don’t have to pay attention to LLMs.

          1. katzenq · · focus · HN ↗
            What do you mean by &#x27;declared an auditable&#x27; here?
            1. tsimionescu · · focus · HN ↗
              They probably meant unauditable and got auto-corrected.
              1. detourdog · · focus · HN ↗
                That is the correct and I thought I edited to correct it but apparently not.
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