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1. fidotron · 1790212110 · focus · HN ↗

   Looks like superb hardware, and contrary to many others the use cases this is designed for look actually worth it. "AVP but lighter and cheaper" or "looks designed for trains or planes" . . . well, obviously.

   The key problem is it's Meta. People don't even trust other people near them to use Meta hardware, and the way they dealt with Oculus users was just grimy. From basically any other company this would be a very welcome device. Zuckerberg needs to fix the company first, because there's no such thing as a killer product good enough to overcome this hurdle.

   1. ai-x · 1790214209 · focus · HN ↗

      People said the same thing about Meta Muse.

      HN constantly under-estimate how much the mass forgives a company as long as they release a cool product (barring a few holdouts that really don't matter to 3B DAU company)

      1. eli · 1790214302 · focus · HN ↗

         Is Muse popular?

         1. dbbk · 1790214390 · focus · HN ↗

            Yes
         2. nl · 1790215024 · focus · HN ↗

            Extremely. It's been top of the App store charts since it came out in the US.

            1. croes · 1790215379 · focus · HN ↗

               That means nothing, see

               <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49662990">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49662990

               &gt; I spent $220 on Google app ads. 60% of the installs were robots

               1. jryle70 · 1790220889 · focus · HN ↗

                  It also tops Apple App store. Any similar tidbit about installs being bots for Apple?
               2. singularity2001 · 1790227667 · focus · HN ↗

                  don&#x27;t trust this we&#x27;ve spent hundreds of dollars without any effect whatsoever in the statistics

                  1. croes · 1790265588 · focus · HN ↗

                     My point is not the money spend but that bots not only create traffic on web sites but also app stores
            2. chownfm · 1790244294 · focus · HN ↗

               Almost like it is a well funded marketing campaign.

               &quot;Everyone loves Meta Muse now, it is organic growth. My social media feed told me so!&quot;

               1. nl · 1790249730 · focus · HN ↗

                  Have you tried it? It&#x27;s pretty good!

                  1. fourside · 1790261824 · focus · HN ↗

                     No, I try to avoid products that continuously show a lack of respect for their users.
         3. fooker · 1790215228 · focus · HN ↗

            I went to set up, it asked for email access.

            Nope.

            1. CaveTech · 1790216015 · focus · HN ↗

               Then don’t give it email access

               1. fooker · 1790232475 · focus · HN ↗

                  That&#x27;s the whole purpose. It wants to pretend as if it was you, online.

                  Anything it does, you are responsible.

         4. behole · 1790217160 · focus · HN ↗

            <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.avclub.com&#x2F;meta-muse-ai-human-labor" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.avclub.com&#x2F;meta-muse-ai-human-labor not for long.
      2. dominotw · 1790217589 · focus · HN ↗

         i asked this in different thread <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49816481">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49816481

         anyone know whats going on with muse. twitter has gone crazy with fake things ppl&#x27;ve supposedly achieved like getting airline to refund 4k, negotiating 45k furniture to 5k, booking flights for 20 dollars. These are the same ppl that were hyping openclaw, not sure what happened to that. and how muse topping charts. Its all befuddling to me.

         1. gundmc · 1790218118 · focus · HN ↗

            Well, Muse is essentially OpenClaw as a service for the general population so that tracks.

            1. dominotw · 1790258767 · focus · HN ↗

               but openclaw was flop. Not many ppl using it after the initial hype.

               1. vanuatu · 1790270634 · focus · HN ↗

                  the average person had no idea how to set up openclaw

                  Muse &#x2F; Instinct were the first to do frictionless setup at scale (Poke was technically &#x27;first&#x27; but not sure how large they got before acq)

                  1. dominotw · 1790299410 · focus · HN ↗

                     no i am talking about ppl who had elaborate openclaw setups now they are hawking muse
      3. fantasizr · 1790218708 · focus · HN ↗

         people don&#x27;t care about privacy; every post on snowden does well here but it&#x27;s a fart in the wind to the general public
      4. ulfw · 1790221438 · focus · HN ↗

         What&#x27;s cool about giving all your life&#x27;s data to Meta Muuuuse?
      5. physicallyIllfr · 1790223366 · focus · HN ↗

         I dont thibk privacy conscious people are using muse, Im not.

         1. ai-x · 1790543597 · focus · HN ↗

            1) You literally made my point.

            2) How is your life any better than Meta Muse user (with similar other attributes as yours)? No, imaginary conspiracy theories don&#x27;t count. Being paranoid actually counts as negative-life experience

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