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1. slowin · 1790209204 · focus · HN ↗

   I had an Oculus Quest and it was a really great device. After the "Meta" rebrand, the quality rapidly decreased and now it wants me to upload my ID to Meta to keep using it. Absolutely not! Zuckerberg already has way too much information on me, uploading my state issued identification to them is such an insane ask, I will never do it. While this looks like interesting hardware, the company behind it has unacceptable and user-hostile practices, so I'll pass.

   1. Mistletoe · 1790209392 · focus · HN ↗

      How do they explain why they need your ID to use VR glasses?

      1. slowin · 1790209442 · focus · HN ↗

         Age verification.

         1. Mistletoe · 1790209588 · focus · HN ↗

            Yes but why do you need to verify your age to use computer hardware?

            1. zamadatix · 1790209762 · focus · HN ↗

               They can't stand the idea you'd use it without a social media account. It's Facebook after all.
            2. slowin · 1790209818 · focus · HN ↗

               You shouldn't have to do this and I won't. I'll vote with my dollars and never buy another device from them. It's too bad because I genuinely liked it as well, but it's not worth the invasion of privacy and normalizing sending this type of information to any consumer company.
            3. dmix · 1790210329 · focus · HN ↗

               Because people are naive enough to think the huge privacy compromise will be worth the cost to society in order to protect kids.

               The better question is why in 5yrs we will have to use ID to buy a product on some random ecommerce site or to play a video game or use Uber or post a comment on Reddit. It will be because people pushed for this for kids on social media and opened the door for the rest of the internet companies to demand it and therefore the government.

               1. vlyan · 1790211942 · focus · HN ↗

                  I really hate it when some vague "people" are blamed for this bullshit. those who do -- a minority -- do it only because they've been brainwashed by the relentless public opinion campaign ran jointly by the capital and the governments.

                  1. dgellow · 1790235584 · focus · HN ↗

                     No brainwashing needed, the vast majority of people don’t care one bit about privacy

                     1. vlyan · 1790268729 · focus · HN ↗

                        the vast majority of people would object to having a camera in every room of their dwelling. they just don't realize that having spyware on every piece of electronics they own is even worse.

                        1. dgellow · 1790272992 · focus · HN ↗

                           They don’t care. Even if you explain everything in details, in a way they understand. We’ve been having that arguments since 2 decades, it’s now pretty clear they don’t care
            4. [deleted] · 1790212234 · focus · HN ↗

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            5. tyrabound · 1790212235 · focus · HN ↗

               Think of the children … or are your a chomo? Now hand over your papers for access to information and communications more that all the books have been fed into the AI shredder and paper and writing instruments were done away with to save the planet.
            6. Daz912 · 1790216751 · focus · HN ↗

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            7. crimsoneer · 1790233254 · focus · HN ↗

               For the same reason you need to show ID to go into a bar/pub.

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