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ASML currently sells no chipmaking machines in Europe, executive says

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ck2 · 1790426977 · focus · HN ↗
when China finally cracks EUV we might be able to afford PC parts again?
oddly cheering for this but I doubt it will end well
* <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/china/how-china-built-its-manhattan-project-rival-west-ai-chips-2025-12-17/" rel="nofollow">https://www.reuters.com/world/china/how-china-built-its-manh...
1. comboy · 1790428711 · focus · HN ↗
  They are not cracking EUV, they are finding ways that actually scale. Chips can be much cheaper than they are currently. I mean yes, obviously we cannot be confident ntil it happens, but they are already making 5nm with DUV.
  When China leads chip making the rest of the world is just vasal states.
  1. Numerlor · 1790432757 · focus · HN ↗
    Going to higher densities with DUV needs high multi patterning which is very inefficient and ends up costing more than if they could do EUV with fewer patterns.
    It's well known tech that is used globally, just not to that degree as yield and throughput goes way down

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