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1. modeless · 1790208405 · focus · HN ↗

   I think a lot of people don't realize the level of performance Qualcomm has reached with these. This is the closest competition to Apple's M series that we have, for the laptop form factor at least. They are better than Intel and AMD's best. I'd love to buy an X2 laptop with Linux preinstalled and supported.

   1. MBCook · 1790214441 · focus · HN ↗

      I’m glad we’re finally getting more competitors to Intel/AMD.

      Better for everyone. Apple gets lazy on top. And for those who don’t want a Mac, they should be able to have something great too. And since PC makers are far more willing to experiment with form factors, I’d like to see what they try.

      1. ksec · 1790224878 · focus · HN ↗

         > Apple gets lazy on top.

         A20 Pro P-Core is the largest jump in performance per watt in the past 5 years. I am not sure why Apple is lazy in their hardware front. Not the same could be said about their software though.

         1. spankibalt · 1790235682 · focus · HN ↗

            Let me appropriate and rephrase a sentence from earlier in the thread: "performance per watt doesn't matter at all if the combination of the machine's feature set, both in hardware and software, as well as form factor, is essentially useless to you".

            1. ksec · 1790237401 · focus · HN ↗

               I have seen this far too many times on HN. A design that put Performance Per Watt first is how you extract more multicore performance when you are fundamentally limited by cooling.

               1. spankibalt · 1790238283 · focus · HN ↗

                  Well, since an adequate cooling solution is a part of a machine's feature set for me, my point still stands.

                  1. ksec · 1790241691 · focus · HN ↗

                     Well I guess you could summarise your point as "Performance doesn't matter".

                     Which is fine. Have a great day.

                     1. spankibalt · 1790243035 · focus · HN ↗

                        Gud lorde, don't be daft. PPW matters until it hits a point where any optimizations above that line are of much less importance to some people (e. g. me) than other specs. Not to speak of necessary attributes completely absent from your PPW dream machine, which indeed negates PPW considerations on a per device/device-class basis. Which excludes optimizations for microprocessor series. It ain't rocket science.

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