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1. modeless · 1790208405 · focus · HN ↗

   I think a lot of people don't realize the level of performance Qualcomm has reached with these. This is the closest competition to Apple's M series that we have, for the laptop form factor at least. They are better than Intel and AMD's best. I'd love to buy an X2 laptop with Linux preinstalled and supported.

   1. MBCook · 1790214441 · focus · HN ↗

      I’m glad we’re finally getting more competitors to Intel/AMD.

      Better for everyone. Apple gets lazy on top. And for those who don’t want a Mac, they should be able to have something great too. And since PC makers are far more willing to experiment with form factors, I’d like to see what they try.

      1. pjmlp · 1790227576 · focus · HN ↗

         Those that dream of an ARM ecosystem don't realise what they are getting.

         Finally the end of IBM PC clones is taking shape.

         1. ezst · 1790228650 · focus · HN ↗

            And how exactly does that matter? How close do you have your head to x86 assembly for the instructions set to matter?

            1. pjmlp · 1790230113 · focus · HN ↗

               A computer is much more than an CPU chip, e.g. "PC 99 System Design Guide", among several other references.

               1. ezst · 1790231491 · focus · HN ↗

                  But that's not answering my question? What do you expect to get from today's ARM chips that's fundamentally impossible otherwise? And how is that a step forward?

                  1. pjmlp · 1790233766 · focus · HN ↗

                     Again, a computer isn't a chip with nothing else.

                     In the ARM world, that other part you are completely ignoring isn't standardised, even with device trees, they only help to alleviate the pain that each computer is its own OEM snowflake.

                  2. ForHackernews · 1790239238 · focus · HN ↗

                     The comment you're replying to is implying that in an ARM world nothing is standard, portable, or compatible by default. Think about smartphones: Every single one a bespoke board with bespoke hardware.

                     In ARMland, there's no such thing as standard OS images you can install on any machine, or generic components that users can buy and install themselves.

                  3. dosisking · 1790241365 · focus · HN ↗

                     I know I will never switch to ARM willingly. There is no advantage, only vendor lock-in. I feel that x86's openness was an accident, and we should try to keep x86 alive as long as possible.

                     1. pjmlp · 1790244649 · focus · HN ↗

                        It actually was an accident, enabled by IBM using off the self parts unlike their previous computers, and Compaq's clean room reverse engineering of the BIOS.
                  4. [deleted] · 1790264120 · focus · HN ↗

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