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Toyota is taking the Corolla electric

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  1. freetime2 · · focus · HN ↗
    Cars that are designed from the ground up to be EVs tend to be much better than trying to shoehorn an EV into an ICE design.

    The new Lexus ES350e, which comes in both hybrid and EV flavors, has been pretty universally panned as a mediocre EV [1]. Lexus anticipates that the vast majority of ES sales will be for the hybrid model, and I expect the same will be true of the Corolla.

    The updated bZ and new bZ Woodland on the other hand, which are built as ground-up EVs on the e-TNGA platform, actually seem pretty decent. And I'm hopeful for the upcoming EV Highlander, too (although that will use a modified version of the TNGA-K platform).

    I would prefer if Toyota just released a new EV model with roughly the same proportions as the Corolla, instead of going with the one-size-fits-all approach. But maybe they'll finally be able to get it right this time.

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    1. hn_submit · · focus · HN ↗
      I agree that it&#x27;s much better to design an EV to be an EV from the ground up. The reality is, however, that consumers don&#x27;t want EVs for a myriad of reasons and prefer hybrids. And developing two completely different platforms is too expensive even for a higly profitable company like Toyota.
      1. maxdo · · focus · HN ↗
        It&#x27;s not consumers decision, it&#x27;s a dealers mafia. If everyone on EV, you will not change oil and other gasoline attributes repairs. If you have hybrid, it&#x27;s a cherry on the top, best of both worlds, pay for regular issues of gas and electric car combined :)
        1. sippingabonedry · · focus · HN ↗

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          1. maxdo · · focus · HN ↗
            I own my EV for 6 years+ already, still runs like new. Yeah, I do not know how to change my air filter, someone in my family changed it, and I only been in service once when my 12 volt battery died.

            I was able to drive there, they did some breaks fluid change for free and thats it, meanwhile my friend with a bmw spent ~$2.5k in service since 3 years he bought it.

            The only expense I had is changing tires, that i did in a regular tire shop.

            Yeah keep laughing.

            1. kuerbel · · focus · HN ↗
              ... if you own a Tesla (I do, I know what I&#x27;m talking about) you should service your brakes after every winter, you should also change your brake fluid after two years but that can be stretched for a bit. And the AC needs real service after around 4 years.

              Still less than an ICE.

              1. dzhiurgis · · focus · HN ↗
                No one is changing their brake fluid every 2-3 years, EV nor ICE lol.
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