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1. WokeUp420 · 1790227220 · focus · HN ↗

   The hybrid already gets 55mpg and the batteries are dirt cheap.

   1. crimsontech · 1790240910 · focus · HN ↗

      Its actually cheaper (for me in the UK) to run a corolla hybrid than an EV as I don't have the ability to charge at home.

      1. [deleted] · 1790271969 · focus · HN ↗

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      2. scottyah · 1790271972 · focus · HN ↗

         I really did think Toyota would have a nice market if they stuck to hybrids.
   2. mcone · 1790272099 · focus · HN ↗

      Our 2026 hybrid gets 64mpg in Albuquerque. The last time I did the EROI calculation it beat everything by a long shot.
   3. throwitaway222 · 1790272535 · focus · HN ↗

      Not sure how you got one that gets 55mpg, mine gets 44 (47 was on the sticker). But in CA this still beats 100% EV.

      1. klaff · 1790279340 · focus · HN ↗

         You really do have to do the math using your local costs. I'm in a place with slightly cheaper gas but much cheaper electricity than California. Combined with cheap night time electricity I'm paying under $0.03 per mile for a large EV. I would need 150 mpg vehicle (assuming $4.50 gas) to beat that. However I'm cheating a bit - I'm on a plan which raises my day time electric costs a small amount in exchange for half-price at night, so they're getting some of that back, and I should amortize charger and electrician work ($1600 for me).
      2. justin66 · 1790293259 · focus · HN ↗

         Yeesh. I get 44 mpg in a much heavier Toyota hybrid. But it probably depends on what percentage of your driving is in the city, vs highway.
      3. 4lx87 · 1790358538 · focus · HN ↗

         What's the math on that? Average kWh in California is around 18 cents. Assuming 0.35 kWh per mile, that's 6.3 cents per mile. You'd need to get 100mpg+ to beat an EV at current gas prices. A brand new Corolla hybrid my family recently bought gets around 40-60 mpg driving around a small city. And that's without factoring in maintenance differences costs per mile.
   4. RajuChacha108 · 1790273422 · focus · HN ↗

      Corolla is sort of highly underrated engineering marvel.
   5. dyauspitr · 1790273934 · focus · HN ↗

      55mpg is nothing. I get 100+ mpg equivalent on my massive F-150 lightning and if you include cost in the comparison it’s probably a couple of multipliers more than that.

      1. NewJazz · 1790274077 · focus · HN ↗

         And that's just operating cost. PHEVs have a higher maintenance cost and worse reliability than pure EVs, typically. Certainly higher complexity and more parts.
      2. rootusrootus · 1790297261 · focus · HN ↗

         On top of that, my Lightning was less expensive than the gas equivalent. I've been winning since day one. If I had to sell it today (that would make me so sad), the depreciation would be the lowest of any car I've ever owned.

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