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Mercury 2.5 LLM hits 770 tokens per second

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  1. nylonstrung · · focus · HN ↗
    I honestly think the diffusion LLM approach is a dead end

    It's telling that frontier labs like Google toyed around with it but didn't invest further even for their most speed and cost sensitive small models

    Still unclear for what, if any use cases this is pareto frontier

    1. LarsDu88 · · focus · HN ↗
      You can't think that a small startup versus Anthropic's training setup is anywhere near the same scale to make apples to apples comparisons.

      Not sure how the Chinese labs pull it off though using autoregressive models. The secret sauce is probably going to be in the training data.

      The main reason Google hasn't switched over to DiffusionGemma is because serving at larger batch sizes loses the speed gains you get from diffusion, and most of the primary use case is serving many users at once off a single device with a large batch size.

      If you were to move to on-device low latency... like say in a robot or something, then the story might be different...

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