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Where's the Beef?: The lab-grown-meat revolution that wasn't

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dr_dshiv · 1790246145 · focus · HN ↗
Would it make the meat industry more ethical if happy drugs were made available to animals? If I had to choose between a meaningful (even if I didn’t know it when living), blissful unnatural life and none at all, I’d choose the former.
It’s the negative affect and suffering (stress, pain, boredom etc) that is the bad part of eating animals.
(I think— I know others have thought more than I on this topic)
It just seems like an easier tech solution might be promising
1. OroPla · 1790248350 · focus · HN ↗
  What I find interesting about this whole discourse is that the lived experience of animals matters to people. At all.
  Just a hundred, two hundred years ago we made the Elephant rifle, because a normal gun couldn't bring it down, but it was a fun sport to go out and kill just for the heck of it. No one cared about the animals.
  It seems like we are living in an age of suicidal empathy and I'm not sure how we got here.
  1. throwaway27448 · 1790279831 · focus · HN ↗
    What do you mean by suicidal?
    OroPla · 1790326017 · focus · HN ↗
    Considering starving yourself to death on a deserted island rather than eating meat an acceptable moral choice and not mental illness. Sacrificing your life to save an animal. Taking actions detrimental to your own well being for the benefit of animals.
    Suicidal empathy is when your feelings hurt more than your body, so you sacrifice yourself to feel good.
    aziaziazi · 1790342367 · focus · HN ↗
    The strawman dying in the island shows your low understanding of what is empathy. It’s not about sacrifice and putting others before yourself, but being nice to others in the range of feasibility.
    > Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation[…]
    Anyone would kill a fish if that’s the only way to survive on a desert island. Meanwhile avoiding animal exploitation of our moderne age isn’t particularly dangerous.
    <a href="https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism" rel="nofollow">https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism

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