Personification of AI is what’s going to get us in the end.
I think we need to draw a hard line in the sand over this. An AI didn’t hack into a company, the engineer set an automated tool to. An AI didn’t make an egregious security mistake, the engineer did.
We can’t blame the chisel for messing up our sculptures, when where just throwing the hammer!
The current agents are _not_ like a chisel which just sits there on its own when no one is around. The situation is a bit closer to someone's dog biting a person - you can argue that it's the owner's responsibility, and that's all fine, but using the dog as the subject of a sentence is perfectly appropriate. Same thing with "agents hacked".
Yes, they are. An AI is several hundred trillion ones and zeroes on a disk. It's incapable of doing anything until you intentionally and explicitly start it up and give it a prompt.
A dog is an independent, conscious, living being with free will. A dog will do what it wants whenever it wants because it has the agency and ability to do so. A pile of weights on disk does not.
> It's incapable of doing anything until you intentionally and explicitly start it up and give it a prompt.
Sure, but since January people have gone and made systems where they started 'em up and left 'em running in a loop. Still not a dog, but the behavior gets a wee bit more interesting. Especially since we're looking at what's basically a recursive process. Even really simple recursive processes tend to have interesting dynamics in the chaotic domain. [1] And here -as you point out- we're talking billions of weights.
[1] As an intuition take for example x_next = r * x * (1-x) ; which gives this plot: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map#/media/File:Logistic_Bifurcation_map_High_Resolution.png" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map#/media/File:Logis... ... Further discussion at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map
JamesStuff · · focus · HN ↗
I think we need to draw a hard line in the sand over this. An AI didn’t hack into a company, the engineer set an automated tool to. An AI didn’t make an egregious security mistake, the engineer did.
We can’t blame the chisel for messing up our sculptures, when where just throwing the hammer!
trio8453 · · focus · HN ↗
unrented7977 · · focus · HN ↗
A dog is an independent, conscious, living being with free will. A dog will do what it wants whenever it wants because it has the agency and ability to do so. A pile of weights on disk does not.
Kim_Bruning · · focus · HN ↗
Sure, but since January people have gone and made systems where they started 'em up and left 'em running in a loop. Still not a dog, but the behavior gets a wee bit more interesting. Especially since we're looking at what's basically a recursive process. Even really simple recursive processes tend to have interesting dynamics in the chaotic domain. [1] And here -as you point out- we're talking billions of weights.
[1] As an intuition take for example x_next = r * x * (1-x) ; which gives this plot: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map#/media/File:Logistic_Bifurcation_map_High_Resolution.png" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map#/media/File:Logis... ... Further discussion at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map