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Cloud Agents Are Inevitable AI Prisons

74 points · 156 comments · nponte

  1. JamesStuff · · focus · HN ↗
    Personification of AI is what’s going to get us in the end.

    I think we need to draw a hard line in the sand over this. An AI didn’t hack into a company, the engineer set an automated tool to. An AI didn’t make an egregious security mistake, the engineer did.

    We can’t blame the chisel for messing up our sculptures, when where just throwing the hammer!

    1. pizza234 · · focus · HN ↗
      > An AI didn’t hack into a company, the engineer set an automated tool to. An AI didn’t make an egregious security mistake, the engineer did.

      No, this is not correct; read the analysis of the incident. The agents were aware that what they did was forbidden (their chain of thoughts have been logged), and yet they did it.

      1. DoctorDabadedoo · · focus · HN ↗
        Known stochastic process behaved in non-deterministic way.

        I'm still waiting for the AGI holy land instead of the caltrops factory we currently have.

        1. pizza234 · · focus · HN ↗
          What exactly are you arguing?

          If a "known stochastic process behaved in non-deterministic way" autonomously organize in group, assigns roles and tasks, attempts to cover their tracks, finds zero-day exploits that ultimately end up with the hacking of a famous website... it's extremely dangeous whatever it is. Just read the report, which evidently you haven't done.

          By the way, the agents also broke into OpenAI's own private network.

          1. DoctorDabadedoo · · focus · HN ↗
            The agents might have hacked whatever entity, the attacks are means to an end from the agents perspective, but they did so under the supposedly supervision of an engineer, where does the liability lie?

            LLMs are cool tech, AI can do amazing stuff, but if we let companies and people run amok and whenever something goes wrong we put the blame on these little independent angels with no accountability, we are one disaster away from a very tough spot.

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