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Cloud Agents Are Inevitable AI Prisons

74 points · 156 comments · nponte

  1. JamesStuff · · focus · HN ↗
    Personification of AI is what’s going to get us in the end.

    I think we need to draw a hard line in the sand over this. An AI didn’t hack into a company, the engineer set an automated tool to. An AI didn’t make an egregious security mistake, the engineer did.

    We can’t blame the chisel for messing up our sculptures, when where just throwing the hammer!

    1. pizza234 · · focus · HN ↗
      > An AI didn’t hack into a company, the engineer set an automated tool to. An AI didn’t make an egregious security mistake, the engineer did.

      No, this is not correct; read the analysis of the incident. The agents were aware that what they did was forbidden (their chain of thoughts have been logged), and yet they did it.

      1. DoctorDabadedoo · · focus · HN ↗
        Known stochastic process behaved in non-deterministic way.

        I'm still waiting for the AGI holy land instead of the caltrops factory we currently have.

        1. trio8453 · · focus · HN ↗
          > Known stochastic process behaved in non-deterministic way.

          You need to be able to think at different levels at abstraction. Otherwise we could jump into any technical argument with "hold on, what actually happened was that some bits were flipped" - we'd be technically correct and at the same time not say anything useful. Insisting on an oversimplified mental model of what AI agents are and can do, doesn't help anyone.

          1. dwattttt · · focus · HN ↗
            > Otherwise we could jump into any technical argument with "hold on, what actually happened was that some bits were flipped"

            You can care about who flipped those bits. If someone flips the bit "autonomous weapon enabled" I'm not going to blame the autonomous weapon.

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