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Italian parliament votes for return to nuclear energy

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  1. jacquesm · · focus · HN ↗
    I've seen quite a few SMR proposals over the last couple of years and not a single one that dared to address the whole cycle from deployment to eventual decommission as a function of the total revenues - costs to operate. Most of these projects seem to be made to bilk investors or governments rather than to actually produce power. The day Italy produces the first KWh that is net profitable to the operators without counting subsidies I will be highly amazed, and that's assuming they get to operational in the first place.
    1. asmodeuslucifer · · focus · HN ↗
      I agree, I tell everyone who will listen that no country, not Russia, China, Japan, France, USA etc has ever made nuclear power profitable. And you can't blame it on the environmentalists in China and Russia.

      That being said, many countries consider it a national security issue not to be held hostage to foreign oil.

      1. tremon · · focus · HN ↗
        Why the myopic focus on profitability? Only one nation has succeeded in making healthcare profitable, please tell us how that has led to the best outcome for society?
        1. Klaus23 · · focus · HN ↗
          Because for power creation there are alternatives, but for healthcare there aren't. Renewables are cheap now and they also solve the sovereignty issue. Ideally we could use land currently dedicated to energy crops to install solar panels that operate at a significantly higher efficiency.
          1. ImJamal · · focus · HN ↗
            Many countries do not have the raw materials to build solar, wind turbines, and batteries so it doesn't solve the sovereignty issue.
            1. AndrewDucker · · focus · HN ↗
              Once you have a solar panel you can't be cut off from using it. It's not like oil where you need regular deliveries forever.
              1. Moldoteck · · focus · HN ↗
                You als can't be cut if you stockpile uranium for a decade or 2
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