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1. syntaxing · 1790183372 · focus · HN ↗

   I conduct interviews pretty often for various levels. Interviews seems so broken from both sides. Hard to find jobs that aren’t ghost jobs. Hard to find candidates that won’t cheat using AI and actually know their stuff. Just feels like AI has made hiring in tech even more inefficient which says a lot.

   1. gib444 · 1790186175 · focus · HN ↗

      Is AI use by current employees considered cheating?

      1. SpicyLemonZest · 1790187437 · focus · HN ↗

         If I were in a meeting with a current employee, and discovered that they were reading an LLM script at me instead of considering and responding to my questions, I would definitely tell them and their manager that this is unacceptable.

         1. skeptic_ai · 1790188147 · focus · HN ↗

            Why you don’t make harder questions that would probably require to use ai?

            Real job you have ai, so no point to ask too many things that ai can answer anyway.

            Ok, some big level stuff like node has an event loop.

            1. SpicyLemonZest · 1790189416 · focus · HN ↗

               Most technical interviews aren't designed to emulate what the job will be like, so what you would or wouldn't have access to on the job isn't really relevant. The goal is to evaluate the human being applying for the job. An interview that effectively emulates the job would really have to be done over at least a week, and most good candidates can't or won't make time for that.
      2. whstl · 1790188092 · focus · HN ↗

         If they can't do even a vibe check without reading from a screen, I'd say yeah, it's worse than cheating.

         I've also caught a few people using LLM cheating software accidentally revealing it.

      3. hightrix · 1790201045 · focus · HN ↗

         If I’m asking you about previous projects you’ve worked on using X technology, then yes I would consider it cheating to use AI to answer.

         1. gib444 · 1790231324 · focus · HN ↗

            So where's the line? And how is that communicated?

            Or is this another arbitrary power play to suffer?

            The reality is most companies will force you to use AI in various forms likely from day 1, so the hypocrisy is quite stark

            1. hightrix · 1790288335 · focus · HN ↗

               The line is where ever it needs to be for the role and the candidate. Hiring is subjective, using AI to tell me about your previous projects is a signal you are sending. For some roles that may be a positive signal for others it may be negative.

               But if you can’t talk about your personal experience without AI telling you what to say, then I don’t want to hire you.

               1. gib444 · 1790318575 · focus · HN ↗

                  You're not engaging in the discussion of the hypocrisy and the contrast of how hiring managers behave versus what the job requires.

                  I know hiring managers on HN love to wade in to these topics all haughty and boasting who they don't hire, acting the mr big shot etc. It's a shame that this is that yet again

                  At least you implicitly admit it's an arbitrary line and a power play of sorts.

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