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1. p_j_w · 1790179654 · focus · HN ↗

   >The cop said, “You’re under arrest,” grabbed her arms, and pulled her out of the room. “I can do this all night. I get paid by the hour,” the cop added.

   Two sentences showing precisely why no one can trust the police. Not only are they completely unaccountable, but they will trample your first amendment rights and do so with smug amusement in full public view. These are the kinds of people we're supposed to be happy to give massive surveillance power to?

   1. sippingabonedry · 1790181603 · focus · HN ↗

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      1. solenoid0937 · 1790181656 · focus · HN ↗

         Why does a city council installing Flock cameras deserve respect?

         Why do they get to use the police state to abuse people if they get disrespected?

         Absolutely insane that the surveillance state is expanding (even more!) and this is what you're concerned about.

         1. sippingabonedry · 1790182169 · focus · HN ↗

            Act like a child, expect to be treated like one.

            1. text0404 · 1790182407 · focus · HN ↗

               And the mayor who refused public comments at the last minute? "Act like a tyrant, expect to be treated like one"?

               1. dekhn · 1790182509 · focus · HN ↗

                  How familiar are you with city council proceedings? I think we need to know before engaging with you further. It's not useful to argue with free speech absolutists.

                  1. text0404 · 1790183205 · focus · HN ↗

                     Very familiar. How familiar are you with the principles of democratic societies?

                     1. dekhn · 1790188592 · focus · HN ↗

                        Moderately so, and then after this thread started I spent some time checking up on the latest in city council disruptions which helped emphasize that the arrest would hold up in court.

                        1. text0404 · 1790200933 · focus · HN ↗

                           > I think we need to know before engaging with you further. It's not useful to argue with free speech absolutists.

                           ... so by your own logic, engaging with you further would be useless because you're only moderately familiar with democratic principles?

                           1. dekhn · 1790204954 · focus · HN ↗

                              Argue in good faith, and don't assume I'm only moderately familiar.

                              1. text0404 · 1790205183 · focus · HN ↗

                                 When I asked you how familiar you were with democratic principles, you said:

                                 > Moderately so

                                 You also asked for my credentials and told me that it would be useless to continue speaking to me if I didn't have the experience you expected, which doesn't strike me as a good faith argument.

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