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GPT-6 Astra has gained the ability to drive a car

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  1. valine · · focus · HN ↗
    The bitter lesson is finally coming for the self-driving cars. The vision stack, 3D maps, lane selection grammar, occupancy networks, it’s maybe all about to give way to a single GPT looking at camera feeds and predicting the next steering wheel adjustment.

    It’s mostly a latency problem at this point. The models are too big to run locally, but given that open-weight models like Qwen already exist, an open-weight, low latency equivalent to Astra can’t be too far out.

    1. atonse · · focus · HN ↗
      Tesla's already solved this - their vision model does this phenomenally well.

      And they've demonstrated adding a sidecar LLM to it as well, mostly for these kinds of "read these 3 street signs, what should i do next?" sort of situations.

      1. matt_heimer · · focus · HN ↗
        The same Tesla that pulled radar to go vision only and a person was killed because the vision model didn&#x27;t recognize a truck? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;technology-36680043" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;technology-36680043

        Not sure that counts as phenomenally well.

        1. atonse · · focus · HN ↗
          This is from ten years ago. Tesla&#x27;s vision only FSD is extremely good now. It has been for at least 18 months or longer.
          1. Rohansi · · focus · HN ↗
            Only for 2024 or maybe late 2023 cars and later (HW4). The older the car is the worse the FSD software is because the old hardware can&#x27;t run the latest software.
            1. atonse · · focus · HN ↗
              Right, and over time the number of HW4+ cars will increase, right?

              I can&#x27;t speak to FSD&#x27;s quality on HW3, I never had FSD on my Model 3. I did have EAP and it worked really well on highways.

              But what is your argument? newer tech will bring improved outcomes? I&#x27;m sure HW5 will be even better. But that doesn&#x27;t change the fact that FSD (on HW4 vehicles of which there are tons), is really good.

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