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  1. freeli · · focus · HN ↗
    This doesn't mirror my experience, which is that most posts and comments criticizing the current administration and conservatives in general get significant positive engagement. There are few posts taking the opposite side, and those that try often get downvoted to oblivion.

    As a recent example, anti-progressive themes (being supportive of Israel, for example) are nowhere to be found. Pro-Palestinian views abound with little counter-engagement.

    In addition, just look at all the anti-US posts/comments. Other countries do not get the same treatment in the same volume. The US is a punching bag here. It's tiresome. HN used to be a respite from political insanity on both sides. Now some days it's no better than reddit.

    From my (politically neutral, believe it or not) perspective, this site is extremely hostile to conservatives. It's interesting that progressives feel the same way. Maybe we should put a pause on political discussions altogether.

    1. Juliate · · focus · HN ↗
      > Other countries do not get the same treatment in the same volume. The US is a punching bag here. It's tiresome.

      Maybe the volume is proportional to the impact each country has globally? (especially these years)

      1. freeli · · focus · HN ↗
        This might be true, but then you would expect to see some proportion of pro-US posts as well, right? I can't remember the last significant one.
        1. cauch · · focus · HN ↗
          I think the US, right now, is just exceptionally bad (not just the president, the whole culture, divisiveness, weaponized fake news, ...).

          If a president is just being not competent, it would be normal that the majority of the posts are negative.

          I wonder how it was for a "normal" president during a "normal" period. For example, Obama? From what I recall, the international comments were pretty balanced at the time.

          1. freeli · · focus · HN ↗
            Take what you dislike about the US and then compare it against:

            - migrants in the UK and EU;

            - slave labor in the Far East;

            - documented genocide in Africa;

            - military conscription in Russia;

            - press freedom in Central Asia;

            - crime and drugs in Latin America

            This is not to say that the US shouldn't be criticized. Let's have that discussion. But why on HN? And why do these other topics never result in substantive engagement? My earlier statement that the US is a punching bag meant that relative to all other injustices in the world, the US appears to be facing the most criticism on HN.

            On one hand, maybe it's because the expectations for the US are so much higher than other countries. On another, maybe it's because it's fashionable to criticize the hegemon. I don't know. But my experience here is that almost all "government does something bad" posts are about the US. This is, to me, evidence of a bias.

            1. officeplant · · focus · HN ↗
              >This is not to say that the US shouldn't be criticized. Let's have that discussion. But why on HN?

              This is foremost a tech focused website, and currently the US is basically tech-Hitler for lack of a better term. So it makes sense we would come up in discussion as the current thread of techno-fascism works its way through all portions of American existence.

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