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Seattle City Council votes to ban surveillance pricing in sale of groceries

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jsrozner · 1790181848 · focus · HN ↗
The best solution is a constitutional amendment that actually enshrines a right to privacy. Among other things, the retention, aggregation, correlation of any personal data should be illegal (including for commercial purposes). (Storage on behalf of users in encrypted form could be made OK. Could also be refined to support retention of data of the medical, legal, etc kind with the attendant non-admissibility protections.)
This would fix this issue, it would destroy the surveillance models of Google/Facebook, and it would fix the Flock issue, etc. It would also fix the Roe v Wade issue: women would be able to get abortions in the first couple months of pregnancy without the possibility of harassment, since law enforcement would have no capacity to detect pregnancy until then.
Also, tech won't save us had a podcast on the dynamic pricing topic: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-data-is-changing-air-travel-w-amanda-mull/id1507621076?i=1000680112948" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-data-is-changing-a...
1. twoodfin · 1790183497 · focus · HN ↗
  This is simply untenable. Institutions of all kinds have been keeping records connected to individuals for millennia.
  Try to run a school when you can’t maintain data on the students.
  1. bravoetch · 1790196911 · focus · HN ↗
    > This is simply untenable. Institutions of all kinds have been keeping records connected to individuals for millennia.
    This is the reason privacy is needed.
    > Try to run a school when you can’t maintain data on the students.
    Yes, we should try this. Zero-knowledge proofs and other modern technology allows for this. Even the first step of not selling or using student data for commerce is an easy step.
    Those who think that we should not try to improve because our privacy is already compromised, should step aside.
    twoodfin · 1790198281 · focus · HN ↗
    Teachers sending encrypted report cards home with zero-knowledge proofs attached?
    Reports they can never again consult when gauging a student’s progress over time?
    Say what you will, but at least it’s an ethos!
    tobyjsullivan · 1790200581 · focus · HN ↗
    The 90's was people worried they'd be treated as nothing more than a number. 2020's is people wishing they could be known only by a number (an opaque identifier).

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