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Seattle City Council votes to ban surveillance pricing in sale of groceries

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  1. jsrozner · · focus · HN ↗
    The best solution is a constitutional amendment that actually enshrines a right to privacy. Among other things, the retention, aggregation, correlation of any personal data should be illegal (including for commercial purposes). (Storage on behalf of users in encrypted form could be made OK. Could also be refined to support retention of data of the medical, legal, etc kind with the attendant non-admissibility protections.)

    This would fix this issue, it would destroy the surveillance models of Google/Facebook, and it would fix the Flock issue, etc. It would also fix the Roe v Wade issue: women would be able to get abortions in the first couple months of pregnancy without the possibility of harassment, since law enforcement would have no capacity to detect pregnancy until then.

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    1. roamerz · · focus · HN ↗
      Cool thought but until violating the said constitution actually has enforceable consequences it’s not more than a paper tiger.

      Take for instance the 2nd amendment. It is constantly under siege by government officials, both elected and appointed, as well as an activist judicial. Thankfully the SCOTUS has been somewhat successful in parlaying these incursions but someday the perpetrators will succeed, and I think mainly because there are no consequences for trying.

      Just an example and JMHO.

      1. Terr_ · · focus · HN ↗
        &gt; until violating the said constitution actually has enforceable consequences it’s not more than a paper tiger. [...] Take for instance the 2nd amendment.

        That seems like an exceptionally tepid constitutional violation to pick, after the last several years of massively-worse and flagrant violations.

        Are you offering it because you think it represents something typical, and current events will prove to be an extreme outlier?

        1. roamerz · · focus · HN ↗
          Honestly it is the one that came to mind as I am apparently a victim of fraud.

          More seriously though what good is a constitution if it can be violated without repercussions?

          You and I do agree on one thing though but I would adjust that to being the last 40 years rather than just several.

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