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Socialism's Positive Rating Tops 40% for First Time

70 points · 104 comments · karakoram

  1. mig39 · · focus · HN ↗
    I live in Canada, where even our right-wing parties are in favour of public education and free health care. I guess that makes us all socialists.
    1. jimt1234 · · focus · HN ↗
      In the US, we hate socialism for everyone else, but love it for ourselves. I've talked to many pro-Trump, MAGA folks who ranted about 'welfare queens', yet they're collecting SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance - aka, money from the government). "That's different!"
      1. karakoram · · focus · HN ↗
        I find the farmers to be the funniest. Like without their stimmy cheques and subsidies they'll all be homeless. For some reason not many farmers call this socialism.
        1. OhMeadhbh · · focus · HN ↗
          There's a quote attributed to Upton Sinclair: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it"

          And an interesting investigation into the origin of the quote at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;quoteinvestigator.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;11&#x2F;30&#x2F;salary&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;quoteinvestigator.com&#x2F;2017&#x2F;11&#x2F;30&#x2F;salary&#x2F;

        2. jalapenok · · focus · HN ↗

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        3. toomuchtodo · · focus · HN ↗
          USDA Survey Shows Most U.S. Farmland Is Owned by Older, Non-Operating Landlords - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49815913">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49815913 - September 2026

          - Approximately 2.1 million landlords rented out 348 million acres of farmland.

          - 87% of landlords did not farm the land themselves.

          - Rental income, farmland values, and debt levels have all increased over the past decade, with rented land and buildings now valued at $1.7 trillion.

          - The average principal landlord is 69 years old, and landlords age 75 and older control about 40% of rented acres and rental income.

          - Most non-operating landlords acquired their land through inheritance or trusts.

          - Operating landlords primarily purchased their farmland.

          - Financially, landlords received $34.1 billion in rental income while carrying $50.7 billion in debt.

          Federal farm subsidies: What the data says - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;usafacts.org&#x2F;articles&#x2F;federal-farm-subsidies-what-data-says&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;usafacts.org&#x2F;articles&#x2F;federal-farm-subsidies-what-da... - June 23rd, 2025

          - Farm subsidies have added an average of $17.6 billion to farm income each year from 1933 to 2024, adjusted for inflation.

          We take taxes from the top 40% of Americans, and funnel it to farm landlords to harvest corn to burn in cars as ethanol, broadly speaking.

          1. theraaca · · focus · HN ↗
            &gt; We take taxes from the top 40% of Americans, and funnel it to farm landlords to harvest corn to burn in cars as ethanol, broadly speaking.

            <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.history.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;feudalism" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.history.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;feudalism

            Feudalism was a medieval system in which land was exchanged for loyalty and military service between lords and peasants.

            I guess the more things change the more they stay the same...

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