USA is approximately the only developed country in which people consistently vote against their interest.
For what it's worth, apart from the migrant scare, PiS, the far-right friends of Trump, made a comeback in Poland in 2016 by promising and delivering 500+ which was an unconditional payout for parents.
And what Trump did give Americans? Half-assed tariffs which destroyed many businesses and individuals, and which were overturned anyway. Destruction of many jobs in the federal sector. Expensive fuel. And so on.
> USA is approximately the only developed country in which people consistently vote against their interest.
Nobody does that. If it seems to you like they are, then that tells you that those people see their interests differently than you do. And it should be a sign that perhaps you don't understand their interests as well as you think you do, because odds are that people understand what's in their best interest better than outsiders.
The diverging life expectancy says otherwise. The point is, in other countries where far-right fucks up in a way that materially affects their voter base, it gets voted out in no time. But somehow, in USA, that's not the case.
Immigrants voting for harsh immigration policies and supporting ICE finding themselves and their family members targeted for deportation. People supporting data centers finding energy costs and noise pollution skyrocketing. Women and minorities voting for Trump and facing the elimination of womens' rights and their removal from the historical record and employment due to "anti-DEI" initiatives. Farmers facing the effects of Trump's trade war. Workers opposing any form of welfare, social safety net or workers' rights, even as they're laid off.
Go check out r/LeopardsAteMyFace, there are plenty of examples of people voting against their interests. People vote against their interests all the time because they've been indoctrinated and vote according to ideology, not rational self-interest.
Supporters being victimized by the refugees they voted to flood into their countries. Anti-nuclear environmental activists causing billions of tons of excess pollution over the decades. Jews, Asians, etc. voting for DEI policies only to be systemically discriminated against. Prison abolitionists, restorative justice, abolish the police, etc. voters that are victimized by violent habitual offenders. LGBTQ+ voters that support unfettered Islamic immigration.
Don't go check out r/LeopardsAteMyFace, they ban left of center examples of people voting against their interests. People vote against their interests all the time because they've been indoctrinated and vote according to ideology, not rational self-interest.
RicoElectrico · · focus · HN ↗
For what it's worth, apart from the migrant scare, PiS, the far-right friends of Trump, made a comeback in Poland in 2016 by promising and delivering 500+ which was an unconditional payout for parents.
And what Trump did give Americans? Half-assed tariffs which destroyed many businesses and individuals, and which were overturned anyway. Destruction of many jobs in the federal sector. Expensive fuel. And so on.
bigstrat2003 · · focus · HN ↗
Nobody does that. If it seems to you like they are, then that tells you that those people see their interests differently than you do. And it should be a sign that perhaps you don't understand their interests as well as you think you do, because odds are that people understand what's in their best interest better than outsiders.
RicoElectrico · · focus · HN ↗
krapp · · focus · HN ↗
Immigrants voting for harsh immigration policies and supporting ICE finding themselves and their family members targeted for deportation. People supporting data centers finding energy costs and noise pollution skyrocketing. Women and minorities voting for Trump and facing the elimination of womens' rights and their removal from the historical record and employment due to "anti-DEI" initiatives. Farmers facing the effects of Trump's trade war. Workers opposing any form of welfare, social safety net or workers' rights, even as they're laid off.
Go check out r/LeopardsAteMyFace, there are plenty of examples of people voting against their interests. People vote against their interests all the time because they've been indoctrinated and vote according to ideology, not rational self-interest.
throwawayfifo · · focus · HN ↗
Don't go check out r/LeopardsAteMyFace, they ban left of center examples of people voting against their interests. People vote against their interests all the time because they've been indoctrinated and vote according to ideology, not rational self-interest.
OhMeadhbh · · focus · HN ↗