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1. diskzero · 1790171248 · focus · HN ↗

   We ended up with a Samsung fridge in our new home. It has no external display or any other indication that it is a "smart" fridge. I only found out when a friend visited who has a Samsung phone and the phone offered to connect to the fridge. We spent the next 30 minutes removing panels from the fridge and found the wifi/bluetooth antenna on a small board under the top-right hinge cover. The board was disconnected and the fridge continues to operate normally.

   I am now eyeing my dishwasher very suspiciously.

   1. cogman10 · 1790171586 · focus · HN ↗

      Samsung has made garbage appliances for my entire life. A family member went through about 3 different samsung fridges before they swore them off for good. The compressor would routinely break after only a year or 2 of service.

      I will never own a Samsung or LG appliance. They are built almost explicitly to force you to get a new one in a couple of years.

      Then couple that with both companies trying to use weaselly legal maneuvers like putting the EULA that agrees to arbitration on the outside of a box and saying "If you open this box you agree to the EULA".

      1. martin_a · 1790173228 · focus · HN ↗

         > Samsung has made garbage appliances for my entire life.

         When I moved into my first own flat, family, friends and colleagues pressured me to buy good appliances. They will last longer they said.

         Buy Miele for a washing machine, nothing else, they said. I didn't had the money for that, so I bought a washing machine for 250 Euro. It has been going for 11 years, moved two times and doesn't show any signs of going out.

         Another friend told me he only buys Samsung fridges. Best machines, one shouldn't buy anything else. I bought a fridge for 200 Euro because I liked the retro look and its red color. Also going strong for 10 years and moving two times. He has got the third Samsung fridge in 10 years now.

         Yeah, that's anecdotal but I haven't really found the part where buying something more expensive really helped with expanding its lifespan, rather the contrary where "high tech" broke earlier or more often.

         1. kakacik · 1790173915 · focus · HN ↗

            Samsung/LG don't know how to build reliable white home appliances, or don't want to. Or black ones for that matter (remember FUBAR with Samsung bricking their expensive surround system for good? Not so long ago).

            No reason to buy those when you have ie some basic Bosch stuff. TBH smart stuff should be left to computers and phones, rest should be dumb as brick. But folks keep buying it for some reason (ie hey Samsung makes good phones, lets buy their fridge), hence crapware everywhere.

            1. bayindirh · 1790174388 · focus · HN ↗

               In my family we have 3 fridges, 2 washers and 2 dishwashers, and our experience a bit different than the rest of the thread.

               The fridges are dead-silent and working great for 7+ years. Washers are also nice, washing for a bit too long but don't wear the clothes down and have better stain removal performance than their peers, and dishwashers are extremely slow and not designed for European market. Their baskets are not suitable for our dishes, we can't fill them efficiently even.

               So, from experience their fridges are A-OK, washers are great with some caveats, but dishwashers are not good.

               My first choice is still BSH group and Beko, but Samsung is acceptable if required, but LG? Ain't nobody got time for that.

               1. epcoa · 1790178316 · focus · HN ↗

                  It’s pretty well known in the US that LG washers perform better and have a far better parts and service network than Samsung. You think whatever you want though.

                  1. bayindirh · 1790178564 · focus · HN ↗

                     I'm not in the US though. The models, their performance and service networks are way different.

                     I have replaced shock absorbers and power switch of a 15 year old Beko washing machine last year, and it cost me 6$ plus workmanship to get genuine parts installed in 20 minutes.

                     I bet that won't be very possible over there, though.

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